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Advice For My 2 Year Old Son...

stephanie86

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stephanie86 Rookie
stephanie86
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Hello! My son is turning 2 in april. Ever since he was a baby he has had severe mucousy stools. At about 15 months dr finally agreed to do restriction diet and we found improvement with eliminating milk and soy. His stools did not go solid, but had SOME consistency. After complaining again to his dr she sent us to a gi because he has not gained any weight in 9 months. He has develoental and speech delays also. The gi agreed something is amiss besides toddlers diarrhea and tested for celiac, fats and sugars in stool and did a blood work up. His serum iga was in range at 53 and his ttg and tga were 3 with a range of 0-19. All his stool tests came back negative so it appears he is absorbing fats and sugars and his only deficiency is a tiny low on iron. His bun and creatinine are low which shows low muscle which we knew lol. I have not fully discussed what to do next with gi but I really thought he would be positive for celiacs with his symptoms! Has anyone had a similar experience and done biopsy anyways? I am going to do more allergy testing but I fear it will be a waste since he never has skin reactions, only gi issues. I am getting so discouraged. My lil guy is miserable...

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shadowicewolf Proficient
shadowicewolf
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It is very possible that he has NCGI (non-celiac gluten intolerance), which has no test outside of the elimination of gluten from diet.

 

I have also heard that young children are quite difficult to test for it.

 

Allergies don't always turn up on the skin. My tomato allergy for example causes me to have a harsh sunburn like feeling on my head, face, neck and shoulders. I did the skin prick test and it was one of the largest hives the allergist had ever seen. Safe to say, he agreed i was allergic.

 

I've also heard that they can occur in different forms as well.

 

You could also do the genetic test, as celiac is genetic. It may not get a diagnosis, but it will give you some sort of idea of whether or not he has the potential to develop it or not.

GottaSki Mentor
GottaSki
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Welcome!

 

With his symptoms I would insist on a full celiac antibody panel:

 

tTG IgA and IgG

EMA IgA

DGP IgA and IgG

 

You have already had Total Serum IgA -- what was the range for the test you quoted?

 

Also...more nutrient testing besides iron:

 

B1, B2, B6, B12, D, K, Ferritin, Zinc, Copper

 

Once all the blood is drawn -- I strongly suggest removing ALL gluten for at least three months...many children test sero-negative for Celiac Disease.  My own grands had all negative...yet removing gluten improved or removed all their symptoms.

 

Hang in there and ask any questions :)

stephanie86 Rookie
stephanie86
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Thank you! The iga was pretty in the middle... not sure exact numbers. The past few days for some reason has been horrible. His stools are back to pure mucus, and he will barely eat which is weird for him! All he wants is milk... well rice milk. I am calling allergist today...

GottaSki Mentor
GottaSki
Posted

Oh goodness....I hope he is feeling better very soon.

nvsmom Community Regular
nvsmom
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My boys all tested negative for celiac disease but because I am a celiac, and I suspected issues in a couple of them, I made them gluten-free as well.  I was right to do so. Two of my kids health had obvious improvements.  :) We didn't do the biopsy since it would not have changed the fact that they were going gluten-free.

 

I agree with Lisa (she gives great advice) and try the gluten-free diet when his testing is done. Hopefully he'll feel well soon.

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eebright Newbie
eebright
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have you noticed a change in your child's speech delay since going gluten free? We are in that process right now as well with our 2 year old (25 mos).   Went gluten free and cow dairy free 10 days ago due to horrible constipation (and I was so tired of giving her miralax every day for over a year), and no improvement whatsoever on her speech.    I have seen huge improvement in her constipation, no longer having issues almost immediately and no miralax, but no changed in speech quite yet.   I am trying to be patient there.    So, we don't know if it is the gluten or the dairy, or both... but that's where we are today.   Any advice from anyone?

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kareng Grand Master
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have you noticed a change in your child's speech delay since going gluten free? We are in that process right now as well with our 2 year old (25 mos).   Went gluten free and cow dairy free 10 days ago due to horrible constipation (and I was so tired of giving her miralax every day for over a year), and no improvement whatsoever on her speech.    I have seen huge improvement in her constipation, no longer having issues almost immediately and no miralax, but no changed in speech quite yet.   I am trying to be patient there.    So, we don't know if it is the gluten or the dairy, or both... but that's where we are today.   Any advice from anyone?

 

 

You asked that question in your own, current thread here:

 

https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/110684-food-allergies-and-speech-delay-in-toddlers/

 

Might be better to discuss your issues on your own new thread?

 

The original poster has not been on the forum for almost 2 years.

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