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What's Really Going On In Our Gi Tract?

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I've been wanting to start on probiotics which lead me to poking around in different research leading me to this page:

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It is a very long read but packed with info about our guts. All very interesting and I just thought I would share, I feel like this is great research! Please give me your thoughts!

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squirmingitch Veteran
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Fascinating. Thank you!

nvsmom Community Regular
nvsmom
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Very neat. I like the direction it is going. Thanks!

Brandiwine Contributor
Brandiwine
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Yeah I thought it was very fascinating! I knew we had a lot going on in there and lots of tiny organisms at work but I liked this guys angle and how he related it to farming. Thank you both for reading, I know it was really long but was interesting enough to keep me reading.

notme Experienced
notme
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that is really interesting, brandi - thanks.  although all the fecal implant references made me go 'ewwww'  lolz.  reminded me of something, too - my sister is a much better housekeeper than i (she also had half as many kids!  in my defense!) my house was always a little sticky and tracked up.  she sanitized/degermed everything and her kids were sick alllllll the time.  mine were hardly ever sick, which is kind of a miracle being as there were so many of them so twice as much exposure to everything and all kinds of opportunities to bring germs home to the family.   she also was a 'run to the doctor' at the drop of a hat while i (had no $$ haha) waited to see if their illness would go away on it's own <80% of the time it did.  they are still pretty germ resistant, i guess, they don't catch every little thing that comes around even as adults :)  good thing i'm a slob hahahahahahahaaaa   ^_^

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that is really interesting, brandi - thanks. although all the fecal implant references made me go 'ewwww' lolz. reminded me of something, too - my sister is a much better housekeeper than i (she also had half as many kids! in my defense!) my house was always a little sticky and tracked up. she sanitized/degermed everything and her kids were sick alllllll the time. mine were hardly ever sick, which is kind of a miracle being as there were so many of them so twice as much exposure to everything and all kinds of opportunities to bring germs home to the family. she also was a 'run to the doctor' at the drop of a hat while i (had no $$ haha) waited to see if their illness would go away on it's own <80% of the time it did. they are still pretty germ resistant, i guess, they don't catch every little thing that comes around even as adults :) good thing i'm a slob hahahahahahahaaaa ^_^

I kinda grossed out on that part too lol!

I think your on the right track there, when I had my first son I was over board with Lysol and bleach everyday! He would get sick more than when I had my second son and I wasn't so on top of it they rarely get sick.... Plus they play outside more and I'm and organic gardener now too and they help a lot, always getting dirty. I do think we have to allow things into our systems for our bodies to gain a defense to them.

There is so potential in this research, I really enjoyed reading it!

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Thanks Brandi, it's a real interesting article for sure.  It reminds me of certain kids wanting to eat dirt.  I wonder if they somehow know it is good for them?  After all, everybody loves a little mud pie right?  :)

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I remember my cousin would always throw her food in the dirt before she would eat it lol

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