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ndw3363 Contributor
ndw3363
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I have been gluten-free for over 2 years - I rarely eat out and keep a completely gluten-free house.  I haven't changed my diet or my personal products at all.  But over the past two weeks, anything I eat goes straight through me.  I'm getting concerned (as well as extremely annoyed) and it's completely taken the joy out of eating anything at all.  I cut out dairy two days ago thinking maybe that was it, but nope...still having problems.  My candida symptoms have flared up a bit lately (found more than one good occasion for a glass of wine), so it's possible that that has something to do with it...but I wanted to check with all of you since I always get the best advice from here.  I just don't know what to cut - I am already soy free, mostly dairy free now, and gluten-free.  Supplements haven't changed either.  Diet consists of chicken, pork, very occasional red meat, fish, and veggies (broccoli, snow peas, spinach, green beans, garlic).  Today for lunch had homemade chicken salad w/ a few bean chips n' salsa (all things that I've eaten before with zero problems).  I'm at a loss and it's making me crazy - haven't noticed any significant weight drop yet, but I know that's the next thing to happen if this keeps up (and I do NOT have the weight to drop) - it's effecting my energy levels at the gym as well as my recovery time which is beyond frustrating.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  SIBO, other intolerance, parasite...????? 

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pricklypear1971 Community Regular
pricklypear1971
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Maybe you had a virus or food poisoning? I find its difficult to recover from those, sometimes.

Are you taking a probiotic? That helps me tremendously.

ndw3363 Contributor
ndw3363
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Yes, taking the same probiotic daily (PB8, gluten-free, dairy free, soy free).  I was using a Whey protein powder (gluten-free of course) for awhile and I thought that was the culprit.  But haven't had it for two days now, and still have to run to the bathroom approx 1 hour after eating anything.  Aside from that symptom and being more tired than usual, I really feel fine.  My anxiety is on high alert lately though and I do know I have a bit more stress going on (i.e. where does my money go, my ins is changing, the guy I thought was "different" turned into a typical  you know what), but I don't necessarily feel overwhelmed or anything.

pricklypear1971 Community Regular
pricklypear1971
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I had a virus and it took a month for the exact thing to stop. I got pretty anxious about the possibility of some sort of relapse or new intolerance. And uhm, geez, the other stuff you have going on is enough to send one over the edge.

For me, anxiety did play a factor but most of all I had to be patient and eat really bland foods and take probiotics and digestive enzymes. I think the enzymes helped decrease the job my gi tract had to do...which helped.

All I know to offer is a food diary or elimination diet, otherwise. I'd hate for you to start eliminating foods if that's not what it is, though. It's a tough call.

And double check everything you've purchased - beauty products, the same brands of food (they do change things), etc. you never know. I've been shocked before.

Gemini Experienced
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I have been gluten-free for over 2 years - I rarely eat out and keep a completely gluten-free house.  I haven't changed my diet or my personal products at all.  But over the past two weeks, anything I eat goes straight through me.  I'm getting concerned (as well as extremely annoyed) and it's completely taken the joy out of eating anything at all.  I cut out dairy two days ago thinking maybe that was it, but nope...still having problems.  My candida symptoms have flared up a bit lately (found more than one good occasion for a glass of wine), so it's possible that that has something to do with it...but I wanted to check with all of you since I always get the best advice from here.  I just don't know what to cut - I am already soy free, mostly dairy free now, and gluten-free.  Supplements haven't changed either.  Diet consists of chicken, pork, very occasional red meat, fish, and veggies (broccoli, snow peas, spinach, green beans, garlic).  Today for lunch had homemade chicken salad w/ a few bean chips n' salsa (all things that I've eaten before with zero problems).  I'm at a loss and it's making me crazy - haven't noticed any significant weight drop yet, but I know that's the next thing to happen if this keeps up (and I do NOT have the weight to drop) - it's effecting my energy levels at the gym as well as my recovery time which is beyond frustrating.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  SIBO, other intolerance, parasite...????? 

I hate to say it but I think if this has been going on for 2 weeks, you need to go to the doctor.  It could be many things but you have covered your bases as far as cc is concerned and you keep a gluten-free house. It may have nothing to do with your diet but could be SIBO or any number of things.  I will say it will take longer than 2 days of no dairy to see if it is a problem with dairy. 

I am so sorry you are having this problem.  Been there, done that and it is not easy.  I hope you can figure it out soon but don't wait too long......I am thin also and that can be problematic, as you know.  Good luck!

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Juliebove
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Good luck with that!  Story of my life!  Finally figured out that eggs and dairy do that to me. Eggs waaay more so.  I am also intolerant to chicken and some herbs and spices.  And now daughter has had this problem several times.  They keep telling me that it is a virus.  Really?  Again and again?  We have also noticed that it is tied to her monthly cycle.  As soon as her period starts, so does big D!  And I used to get that too but...  For me it was one bout of it.  For her?  It's at least a full week.

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dilettantesteph
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I hope that you have had some results by now and are doing better.  Was it something other than what you are eating?  Sometimes I have problems with things that I consume without changing anything.  Sometimes they have changed something.  I can find out by eliminating things one by one.  Either that or I go down to a just a few totally safe things until I get better and then add things back one by one.  Are you doing any better?

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No, so far same ol same ol.  Actually not looking forward to eating lunch at all today - why bother right?  Going to attempt to go very bland this weekend and see what happens.  If this keeps up much longer, I will have to make a dr. appt - which I absolutely HATE to do, because all I'm going to hear is, oh I don't know - you want an antibiotic?  Anti-depressant?  Acid reducer?  Those seem to be the only three things any of my doctors could think to do in any given situation.  Oh, you have an itchy rash?  Here take Prozac - wtf??  Sorry, as you can see, I'm in a bit of a mood this morning.  But it's Friday so hopefully I can turn my mood around!  Thanks everybody!

Gemini Experienced
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No, so far same ol same ol.  Actually not looking forward to eating lunch at all today - why bother right?  Going to attempt to go very bland this weekend and see what happens.  If this keeps up much longer, I will have to make a dr. appt - which I absolutely HATE to do, because all I'm going to hear is, oh I don't know - you want an antibiotic?  Anti-depressant?  Acid reducer?  Those seem to be the only three things any of my doctors could think to do in any given situation.  Oh, you have an itchy rash?  Here take Prozac - wtf??  Sorry, as you can see, I'm in a bit of a mood this morning.  But it's Friday so hopefully I can turn my mood around!  Thanks everybody!

We completely understand!  You have not lost your sense of humor about doctors so that is a good sign.  I hope you feel better over the week-end! 

Juliebove Rising Star
Juliebove
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When my D gets really bad I eat nothing but plain white rice.  If I tolerate that, then I might add unsweetened applesauce.  Then I might do a plain baked potato or instant ones made with water and Nucoa with plenty of salt and pepper.

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Brandiwine
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I did this when u had really bad damage before I found out what I was doing to myself. Did you get glutened around the time it started? Eat out? Could be another food allergy that you've developed. Elimination diet seems to be the best fit here.

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