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dancingmama Newbie

I got some great info in my other thread about which tests are needed for the celiac panel. Now I'm wondering if I should ask for vitamin deficiency tests and which ones? I will probably have to tell my doctor exactly which tests I want because this isn't his speciality. He has agreed to run every test on me that his lab can do, I just need to let him know which ones. 


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Here's some information:

 

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It contains a list of vitamins and things that should be ordered/checked after a celiac diagnosis (e.g. bone scan).  

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The vitamins that I know of that can be affected by celiac disease are: D, B12, ferritin, Cu, Mg, K, Fe, K, A, Zn, and Ca.

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