Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Do negative test results need pursuing?


ccbre

Recommended Posts

ccbre Newbie

In January of this year, I started developing hives.  My google research told me that giving up gluten could help, so I did, and it did help.  I followed up with my allergist and was diagnosed with dermatagraphism (skin-writing) and chronic autoimmune urticaria.  No food allergies were found. So I just kept with the gluten-free diet.  In May, followed up with my family doctor because I was concerned about autoimmune diseases, my aunt had MS and my uncle has RA. I also have a small amount of arthritis in my back (and I'm only 38).  So she did my blood work and tested for celiac as well.  Everything was normal, except my SED rate was just above normal - so there is still inflammation in my body. I'm still thinking gluten is a problem. After 4 months of gluten-free, these are my results:

immunglobin Iga   116mg/dl (68-378 normal)

Gliadin Igg   5.59 (<15 normal)

Transglutamase Iga   2.42 (<15 normal)

I feel like after 4 months of gluten free that the gliadin should be lower.  But I really have no idea.  Since the blood tests, I've experienced stomach issues and changes in bowel movements, but not enough to really link it to any gluten.  I made an appointment with a GI, but I'm considering canceling it. I feel kind of crazy.  Once going gluten free, much of my hip pain went away, my muscles seemed not as tight, and the numerous headaches I would get disappeared.  However, I did also go dairy-free, grain-free, and stayed away from caffeine most days of the week.

I would appreciate any insight, thoughts, or advice on this matter. Thanks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Fundog Enthusiast

You already have an autoimmune condition which does put you at a higher likelihood of developing other conditions in the future, not necessarily celiac.  At any rate, I've been reading reports-- both research articles and anecdotal experiences from AI patients-- linking a gluten free diet with relief of symptoms, particularly a lessening of joint and muscle pain in those with RA, FMS, Lupus, and Chronic Fatigue.  So my point is, even if you don't have celiac disease, if being on a gluten free diet helps you, then stay on it.  As for the digestive issues, it may be worth seeing a GI for.  Lots of things can cause tummy troubles, not just celiac disease. :)

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Welcome to the board. Your celiac testing was pretty much useless since you had been gluten free for 4 months. If you want testing for celliac you need to go back on gluten for a couple months first.

cyclinglady Grand Master

Your celiac results are in the normal range.  Based on my research do not expect them to hit a zero!  That is not how they work.  Do you have celiac disease?  You will never know unless you do a gluten challenge and get retested as Raven has suggested.  

Open Original Shared Link

I am not a doctor, but you can research Mast Cell Activation Disorder.  It could be contributing to your health issues (but so can celiac disease).  

caretothepeople Newbie

Yes it sounds like you may need further testing to rule out other conditions. Maybe seeking a second opinion from a endocrinologist and/ or rheumatologist would be a place to start.

ccbre Newbie

Thanks for the comments. With Dr. Google, I have seen mast cell disorder pop up.  It seems like I need to eliminate some basics before heading in that direction.

So, another question...is it possible that symptoms of celiac need time to "build up" over time? For instance,  I started reintroducing gluten and coffee last week to prepare for my GI appt.  However, nothing really seemed to happen except a little knee crankyness (which I can easily attribute to hiking).  Yet, yesterday I had a huge bagel at work, had itchy forearms, and then had two huge hives appear later.  Today, I had another bagel and in a few hours I had a few red fingers that were itchy and numb feeling in the tips.  

I know histamine intolerance is a possibility, but wouldn't that show up as an extremely large hive with my allergy skin test?

Also, I had to go into work today and yesterday. I'm wondering if that environment could contribute to the issue (I'm a high school teacher).

 

cyclinglady Grand Master

Back to Dr. Google for you!  

A histamine intolerance is not a true IGE mediated allergic reaction.  Read up!  It does often (like many intolerances) occur with celiac disease because the small intestine is damaged.  It can resolve once the gut has healed.  

celiac disease antibodies can take time to build up (in your blood stream for the test or skin).   That's why the gluten challenge is 8 to 12 weeks.  In the case of DH, you can eat something and days or weeks later, the DH rash will appear and you'll go crazy trying to figure out when you got "glutened" (but don't take any serious gluten advice from me because I don't have it).  

You can have several things wrong with you and a wheat allergy and celiac disease can occur at the same time.  Add on something like Mast Cell Activation, Autoimmune Hives, Histamine Intolerance.......the list can be endless (at least that is how some of us feel.) 

Of course your high school could be making you ill.  Think of all that stress!  Who knows what lurks in your building, but let's face it, you ate some gluten. 

Best of luck to you on your challenge!  


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - catnapt posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      0

      anyone here diagnosed with a PARAthyroid disorder? (NOT the thyroid) the calcium controlling glands

    2. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    3. - Jmartes71 posted a topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      0

      Curious question

    4. - Amy Barnett posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Question

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,322
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    avery144
    Newest Member
    avery144
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • catnapt
      learned I had a high PTH level in 2022 suspected to be due to low vit D  got my vit D level up a bit but still have high PTH   I am 70 yrs old (today in fact) I am looking for someone who also has hyperparathyroidism that might be caused by malabsorption    
    • catnapt
      I am on day 13 of eating gluten  and have decided to have the celiac panel done tomorrow instead of Wed. (and instead of extending it a few more weeks) because I am SO incredibly sick. I have almost no appetite and am not able to consume the required daily intake of calcium to try to keep up with the loss of calcium from the high parathyroid hormone and/or the renal calcium leak.    I have spent the past 15 years working hard to improve my health. I lost 50lbs, got off handfuls of medications, lowered my cholesterol to enviable levels, and in spite of having end stage osteoarthritis in both knees, with a good diet and keeping active I have NO pain in those joints- til now.  Almost all of my joints hurt now I feel like someone has repeatedly punched me all over my torso- even my ribs hurt- I have nausea, gas, bloating, headache, mood swings, irritability, horrid flatulence (afraid to leave the house or be in any enclosed spaces with other people- the smell would knock them off their feet) I was so sure that I wanted a firm diagnosis but now- I'm asking myself is THIS worth it? esp over the past 2 yrs I have been feeling better and better the more I adjusted my diet to exclude highly refined grains and processed foods. I didn't purposely avoid gluten, but it just happened that not eating gluten has made me feel better.   I don't know what I would have to gain by getting a definitive diagnosis. I think possibly the only advantage to a DX would be that I could insist on gluten-free foods in settings where I am unable to have access to foods of my choice (hospital, rehab, nursing home)  and maybe having a medical reason to see a dietician?   please let me know if it's reasonable to just go back to the way I was eating.  Actually I do plan to buy certified gluten-free oats as that is the only grain I consume (and really like) so there will be some minor tweaks I hope and pray that I heal quickly from any possible damage that may have been done from 13 days of eating gluten.    
    • Jmartes71
      So I've been dealing with chasing the name celiac because of my body actively dealing with health issues related to celiac though not eating. Diagnosed in 1994 before foods eliminated from diet. After 25 years with former pcp I googled celiac specialist and she wasn't because of what ive been through. I wanted my results to be sent to my pcp but nothing was sent.I have email copies.I did one zoom call with np with team member from celiac specialist in Nov 2025 and she asked me why I wanted to know why I wanted the celiac diagnosis so bad, I sad I don't, its my life and I need revalidaion because its affecting me.KB stated well it shows you are.I asked then why am I going through all this.I was labeled unruly. Its been a celiac circus and medical has caused anxiety and depression no fault to my own other than being born with bad genetics. How is it legal for medical professionals to gaslight patients that are with an ailment coming for help to be downplayed? KB put in my records that she personally spent 120min with me and I think the zoom call was discussing celiac 80 min ONE ZOOM call.SHE is responsible for not explaining to my pcp about celiac disease am I right?
    • Amy Barnett
      What is the best liquid multivitamin for celiac disease?
    • Jmartes71
      I've noticed with my age and menopause my smell for bread gives me severe migraines and I know this.Its alarming that there are all these fabulous bakeries, sandwich places pizza places popping up in confined areas.Just the other day I suffered a migraine after I got done with my mri when a guy with a brown paper bag walk in front of me and I smelled that fresh dough bread with tuna, I got a migraine when we got home.I hate im that sensitive. Its alarming these places are popping up in airports as well.I just saw on the news that the airport ( can't remember which  one)was going to have a fabulous smelling bakery. Not for sensitive celiacs, this can alter their health during their travel which isn't safe. More awareness really NEEDS to be promoted, so much more than just a food consumption!FYI I did write to Stanislaus to let them know my thoughts on the medical field not knowing much about celiac and how it affects one.I also did message my gi the 3 specialist names that was given on previous post on questions on celiac. I pray its not on deaf door.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.