Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Biopsy Boardline and Blood work negative


boarderline??

Recommended Posts

boarderline?? Newbie

Hi I'm new to the forum and need some help please.  I have had RA and Sjorens for over 6 years.  Also anemic and while following that up they did a lower and upper scope and biopsies.  The biopsy came back boarderline for Celiac disease.  Bloos test was done and while waiting for that I started to do alot of research about the disease and seemed from what I read that the blood work would come back positive.  Nope couldn't be that easy the blood work came back negative.  So now I'm not sure which is the most accurate?  I figure I should just follow that diet and see what happens but I have read it could take up to 2 years to see real results and doubt I could do that without an actual answer.   Please help!!

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Gemini Experienced

 Are you on any immuno-suppressive drugs for your RA/Sjogren's?  Some of them can interfere with blood testing results.  If not, then it is entirely possible for blood work to be negative and biopsy positive.......that happens to a lot of people.  Neither one is more accurate than the other as damaged villi can be missed on biopsy if damage is patchy.  I am not even sure what borderline means on a biopsy report.  You either have damage or you don't.

Having both RA and especially Sjogren's puts you into the higher risk category for Celiac.  I also have Sjogren's.  Could you post the biopsy results, if you are comfortable with doing that?

 

boarderline?? Newbie

I am on Leflunomode, Nabumetone, hydroxycloroquine and Pilocarpine.  Not sure if any of these would interact with the test or not.  I know I fasted the day before for the scope and hadn't eaten much before I got the blood drawn so not sure if that could mess with it or not.  I don't have any of the reports for the biopsy the doctor just called and said it was boarderline and ordered the blood work.  Feel like I have been left hanging  by them just got a call from a someone in the doctors office (not the Dr) telling me that the result was negative and when I asked if that meant I could have gluetin she responded yes.  Dummy me didn't ask to talk to the Dr

Gemini Experienced

Two of the four drugs listed are immuno-suppressive drugs.  Leflunomode and Plaquenil are the two so there is a strong possibility that either of these 2 (or both) could have affected antibody testing.  If you are testing an antibody level in autoimmune testing (Celiac) and take meds that suppress the immune response, testing results may be useless.  I am not saying for sure that they will but the odds are higher that they might.  Most doctors don't even take this into account, which always boggles my mind.

I think you need a new GI doctor because the one you have is not doing you any good.  You can ask them for the biopsy report and post it here.  You have a right to all medical testing results.  I would not go back to eating gluten unless you want to be re-tested by someone more competent.  Having these 2 diseases, plus anemia, makes the odds of you having Celiac much higher than not.  You could also do gene testing to see if you carry any of the main Celiac genes but that will not tell you if you have it.  It just tells you whether you have the genetic make-up to trip for it.  You do sound like a strong possibility for Celiac, though.

Many people with RA notice much pain improvement when following a gluten-free diet......if you have Celiac.  When I went gluten free after diagnosis, my Sjogren's symptoms improved.  I take no systemic meds for it, although I do use Restasis eye drops for my dry eyes.  Don't get me wrong, Sjogren's still sucks big lemons but things stabilized for me. We'll see what happens as I continue to age......:rolleyes:

frieze Community Regular

Gem, check into Vitamin D, into dry eye.

 

Gemini Experienced
14 hours ago, frieze said:

Gem, check into Vitamin D, into dry eye.

 

I take a lot of Vitamin D and my levels are the highest they have ever been.  They have gone from the twenties to 62 so I keep plugging away at that.  I just have a lot of collateral damage from going so long as an undiagnosed Celiac. I also take 2,000 mg per day of omega fish oil and flax seed oil, which is supposed to specifically help with dry eye.  This is all doing wonders for my good cholesterol but my eyes can still be problematic during allergy season.  I am sure if I didn’t do all this things would be much worse but I wish I could bump it up to the next level of better. I’m sure the aging thing isn’t helping matters any........<_<

If there is something I am missing here, please let me know! 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,018
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Laney71
    Newest Member
    Laney71
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • sleuth
      He is not just a psychiatrist.  He is also a neuroscientist.  And yes, I have already read those studies.   I agree with benfotiamine.  This is short term while glutened/inflammation occurs.  As I had already mentioned, these symptoms no longer exist when this phase passes.  And yes, I know that celiac is a disease of malnutrition.  We are working with a naturopath.
    • knitty kitty
      Please do more research before you settle on nicotine. Dr. Paul New house is a psychiatrist.  His latest study involves the effect of nicotine patches on Late Life Depression which has reached no long term conclusions about the benefits.   Effects of open-label transdermal nicotine antidepressant augmentation on affective symptoms and executive function in late-life depression https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39009312/   I'm approaching the subject from the Microbiologist's point of view which shows nicotine blocks Thiamine B1 uptake and usage:   Chronic Nicotine Exposure In Vivo and In Vitro Inhibits Vitamin B1 (Thiamin) Uptake by Pancreatic Acinar Cells https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26633299/   While supplementation with thiamine in the form Benfotiamine can protect from damage done by  nicotine: Benfotiamine attenuates nicotine and uric acid-induced vascular endothelial dysfunction in the rat https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18951979/   I suggest you study the beneficial effects of Thiamine (Benfotiamine and TTFD) on the body and mental health done by Dr. Derrick Lonsdale and Dr. Chandler Marrs.  Dr. Lonsdale had studied thiamine over fifty years.   Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8533683/ I suggest you read their book Thiamine Deficiency Disease, Dysautonomia, and High Calorie Malnutrition.     Celiac Disease is a disease of malabsorption causing malnutrition.  Thiamine and benfotiamine: Focus on their therapeutic potential https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682628/
    • sleuth
      Thanks for your response.  Everything you mentioned he is and has been doing.  Tobacco is not the same as nicotine.  Nicotine, in the form of a patch, does not cause gastrointestinal irritation.  Smoking does. He is not smoking.  Please do your research before stating false information. Dr. Paul Newhouse has been doing research on nicotine the last 40 years at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.  
    • Jmartes71
      Im so frustrated and still getting the run around trying to reprove my celiac disease which my past primary ignored for 25 years.I understand that theres a ray of medical that doctors are limited too but not listening and telling the patient ( me) that im not as sensitive as I think and NOT celiac!Correction Mr white coat its not what I think but for cause and affect and past test that are not sticking in my medical records.I get sick violently with foods consumed, not eating the foods will show Im fabulous. After many blood draws and going through doctors I have the HLA- DQ2 positive which I read in a study that Iran conducted that the severity in celiac is in that gene.Im glutenfree and dealing with related issues which core issue of celiac isn't addressed. My skin, right eye, left leg diagestive issues affected. I have high blood pressure because im in pain.Im waisting my time on trying to reprove that Im celiac which is not a disease I want, but unfortunately have.It  has taken over my life personally and professionally. How do I stop getting medically gaslight and get the help needed to bounce back if I ever do bounce back to normal? I thought I was in good care with " celiac specialist " but in her eyes Im good.Im NOT.Sibo positive, IBS, Chronic Fatigue just to name a few and its all related to what I like to call a ghost disease ( celiac) since doctors don't seem to take it seriously. 
    • trents
      @Martha Mitchell, your reaction to the lens implant with gluten sounds like it could be an allergic reaction rather than a celiac reaction. It is possible for a celiac to be also allergic to gluten as it is a protein component in wheat, barley and rye.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.