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Reoccurring Bruising


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amyschicks Rookie

I tend to get bruising frequently on my upper legs/hips. I've always assumed it was because I'm pretty clumsy but they're in a spot that doesn't match door knobs or my desk even. The most recent bruise has popped up in the last day and I know that I've been especially careful so I'm not sure where it's coming from. They are on the same spot on both my left and right legs. 

Does anyone else have a problem with frequent bruising? Especially in the same spot? 


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cyclinglady Grand Master
10 minutes ago, amyschicks said:

I tend to get bruising frequently on my upper legs/hips. I've always assumed it was because I'm pretty clumsy but they're in a spot that doesn't match door knobs or my desk even. The most recent bruise has popped up in the last day and I know that I've been especially careful so I'm not sure where it's coming from. They are on the same spot on both my left and right legs. 

Does anyone else have a problem with frequent bruising? Especially in the same spot? 

Celiacs are often vitamin and mineral deficient when they are first diagnosed until they are healed (or maybe always if they have a poor diet).  That can contribute to bruising.   Ask you doctor to run a few tests for you:

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amyschicks,

****this is not medical advice in case I forget to say it later.

I do not have bruising issues but have had friends with this issue.

But I have taken most vitamins/minerals as  super supplemmenter.

And have taken most of the 20 odd vitamins/minerals a celiac can become low in.  . .in time.

And Vitamin K (assuming you do not have other medical predisposing) issues like taking blood thinner, or a daily aspirin for your heart etc. . . is usually the vitamin most people are deficient in when bruising is a problem.

Here is a gluten free works article about it.

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and here is a great site aggregator that has a wealth of information from other sites if the Vitamin K doesn't work that list the other common vitamin deficiencies associated with easy bruising though it's focus is vitamin D (naturely) and naturally they emphasize Vitamin D (with vitamin K) but it does have good resources on bruising.

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I hope this is helpful and this is not medical advice just some of the things I have learned about from study of Vitamin K when I took it.

I was taking it for it's ability to help my cholesterol.

a quick google search about it's ability to help cholesterol and atherosclerosis.

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and I went from chronically high cholesterol to normal levels.

New born babies are often given a Vitamin K shot to prevent HDN.

Here is victorian state Australian page on its (Vitamin K's) use in newborns to prevent bleeding (hemorrhaging of the brain)

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again I hope this is helpful. .  . and this is not medical advice but Vitamin K is used to prevent excessive bleeding. . . in newborns and why not totally without risk.  In the correct form usually it can be very helpful for unexplained bruising.

study up on Vitamin K. . . It has several forms.   K1, K2,  are fairly safe forms. K2 is the form in animal sources.  K1 is from plant sources.

Butter is a great source (if dairy is not a problem) for you.

Natto is a great source if soy is not a problem for you.

2 Timothy 2: 7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included.

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

 

 

 

knitty kitty Grand Master
On 4/26/2018 at 11:16 AM, amyschicks said:

I tend to get bruising frequently on my upper legs/hips. I've always assumed it was because I'm pretty clumsy but they're in a spot that doesn't match door knobs or my desk even. The most recent bruise has popped up in the last day and I know that I've been especially careful so I'm not sure where it's coming from. They are on the same spot on both my left and right legs. 

Does anyone else have a problem with frequent bruising? Especially in the same spot? 

Perhaps the bruising is caused by Vitamin C deficiency, aka scurvy.  Here's an article that references a man with malabsorption problems due to alcoholism.  Celiacs can get scurvy, too.

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When I was low in vitamin C, I'd get two round bruises, one on each thigh, that didn't match door knobs or desk drawers.... I eventually connected it to resting my elbows on my thighs while reading in the loo.  ?  I had lots of corkscrew hairs, too.  

Here's more information on Vitamin C....

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Hope this helps!

 

Posterboy Mentor

amyschicks,

Knitty Kitty has given you good advice.

Here is a good article on the reemergency of vitamin deficiencies.

Easy bruising can be a sign of scurvy.

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Here is a case report where the note that scurvy needs to be ruled out in nutritional diseases.

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"Scurvy has a number of clinical manifestations leading to changes in bones, skin, and mucous membranes. Usually, it takes a person one to three months to develop scurvy after a diet deficient in Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) (Bolognia et al., 2008).

Symptoms dramatically improve after vitamin C supplementation (Bolognia et al., 2008).

Nowadays, we rarely see patients presenting with scurvy, but we need to think about it in patients with food faddisms, alcoholism, and poor nutrition due to any cause such as anorexia nervosa, malabsorption such as due to inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease and severe food allergies."

 I usually associate scurvy with bleeding gums but the 4Hs of Scurvy include a much wider spectrum of bleeding including hematoma's (easy bruising).

And why I don't know if it is true or not when I have taken Vitamin C before I have noticed my hangnails go away when I take Vitamin C.

So I personally consider it an early alert system for me to start taking Vitamin C again or eat more citrus based foods.

The vitamindwiki article mentioned Vitamin C also. .  . but I glossed over it.

but it turns out the easy bruising seen in older patients (especially) can be a sign of Scurvy.

Here is a nice livestrong article about Vitamin deficiency and what they term inappropriate bruising.

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Here is a good quick read from the celiac brain blog spot that lists 5 diseases associated with celiac disease that result from nutrient deficiencies

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and most of them result from water soluble vitamins not easily stored in the body like Vitamin C (Scurvy) Beri Beri (Vitamin B1) and Pellagra (Vitamin B3) but also night blindess (Vitamin A) and ricketts (Vitamin D).

these conditions are easily reversible as they note with 1 to 3 months of supplementation.

*****Again this in not medical advice but Knitty Kitty has given you good advice.

I hope this is helpful.

As always “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included. 2 Timothy 2: 7

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

 

amyschicks Rookie

Thank you both for your suggestions! I know that I'm already very deficient in Vit D and I am taking supplements for it but I haven't had my other Vitamin levels checked. I'm still in process of getting diagnosed. I have an appointment next week so I'll be sure to ask for Vit C and K to be checked. 

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