Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Cealic and dissociation?


CholoeS

Recommended Posts

CholoeS Rookie

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ennis-TX Grand Master
17 hours ago, CholoeS said:

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 

Unsure it does have issues with the brain via ataxia in some, can cause imbalances due to b-vitamin and magnesium deficiency. So Spectrum B-vitamin supplementation.

Dissociation....so many different perspectives with this, I for one am a bit of a introvert, and find true happiness in imagined senerios in my head when alone....or used to, imagination been stalled since 6 years ago, but I still try to work them out like I used to. I still do have to be alone to myself for a good amount of time after being out dealing with humans.I also find myself disconnected from "normal gluten eaters" I mean...they eat something that can have such horrendous effect on me....I see them eating it and I no longer can look at them like a human being and have to leave and not talk to them or distract myself.

From the dream like perspective....I have only had that kind of experience on a few occasions, ...a bad night of drinking...lost count at 26 shots? I was literally looking over my own shoulder from above my head perspective wise and felt like I was controlling myself with strings.....This was over 7 years ago? 3 Years ago, I cut the inside of my throat on a pumpkin seed really bad when a sliver slit my esphougus, I was coughing up tons of blood into a bucket and going light headed and that whole out of body experience, ER gave me some stuff to coat and stop the bleeding and I was again back in my body without the fly by wire feeling a few hours later. Again when I was running a 103-104 fever last fall from the flu and had to go lay in a cold shower to get my temp down and felt like I was shifting back into my body from outside. And a few months ago when I had really bad Diarrhea going on all day, and vomiting from a gluten exposure, I assume this was dehydration and a electrolyte imbalance but I got that whole fly by wire feeling sort of zoning out over my own shoulder. Generally something is pretty out of wack when I had these experiences...so I would not take them lightly if they just come up.

On a disconnected level...I do not feel much for anyone or anything I can not relate to...I mean my health is so FUBAR at times and my life so messed up...I really do not have time to worry about those who I can not relate to with either common health issues, family, or someone who can influence my day to day life. But I figure this whole indifference to life and focus on your own is more a logical/biological imperative to keep you focused on prioritizing your own health...or that cold hard reality that real life issues drill into older traumatized people.

knitty kitty Grand Master
6 hours ago, CholoeS said:

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 

Get your vitamin B12 checked asap! 

Vitamin B12 (cobalamine) deficiency can cause mental symptoms exactly like you're describing.  I've been deficient in B12 and have experienced and  understand dissociation.  Some people can be deficient in B12 and not have any mental or emotional problems.  A lucky few have the mental changes long before anemia shows up.  B12 deficiency that presents at first as mood alterations can be easily overlooked by doctors.  

Celiac Disease causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  Cobalamin (B12) deficiency is one of the most common deficiencies in Celiacs.  

Here's an article about mental changes in a young man with B12 deficiency.

Open Original Shared Link

Hope this helps.

ch88 Collaborator

I have heard some people can get disassociation after traumatic life experiences. Other people say that there disassociation was not caused by any event. There is a strong genetic component to mental illness, in some cases at least.

Probably everyone with a mental disorder should be screened for celiac disease.

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

cristiana Veteran

Echoing knitty kitty above - check B12, and also ferritin.  I suffered something similar when my levels were low,  which brought on severe anxiety.

I found reading At Last a Life and the Anxiety No More website helped too and equipped me to deal with depersonalisation, and the anxiety that was causing it.

Posterboy Mentor

CholoeS,

On 5/3/2018 at 6:23 PM, Ennis_TX said:

So Spectrum B-vitamin supplementation.

 

On 5/3/2018 at 6:23 PM, Ennis_TX said:

Unsure it does have issues with the brain via ataxia in some, can cause imbalances due to b-vitamin and magnesium deficiency

Echoing what Ennis_Tx said find a good B-Complex and Magnesium.

Here is a good overview of how B-Vitamins can help our mental health.

Open Original Shared Link

I also recommend a good Magnesium form like Citrate or Glycinate.

Here is a research article on how Magnesium Glycinate can help depression.

Open Original Shared Link

Taking Niacinamide and Magnesium first as Magnesium Citrate and now Magnesium Glycinate really helped my depression.

I also had the B-12 deficiency that Knitty Kitty mentioned before taking a FABB tablet under doctor's supervision to treat my homocysteine levels.

I no longer take a B-complex but found I needed to take them at least 6 months to get the desired result of improved mood(s).

But Magnesium Citrate worked much quicker in only 6 weeks or so I felt much better and my fatigue greatly improved. A sign the Magnesium is working is restful sleep marked by dreams.

This  health line link explains how a Niacin deficiency can effect your serotonin levels and thus your moods.

Open Original Shared Link

Quoting

"Serotonin deficiency can lead to depression. This is why antidepressants known as SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) are so effective at treating depression.

Serotonin is created by an amino acid called tryptophan. Niacin is Open Original Shared Link the metabolizing process of forming serotonin from tryptophan. Therefore, niacin deficiency can directly impact mood by affecting your production of serotonin."

I know taking Niacinamide and Magnesium Citrate helped my moods.

Good luck  on your continued journey.

**** this is not medical advice but I hope it is is helpful.

2 Timothy 2: 7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things”

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

CholoeS Rookie

Thanks to everyone who replied 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty commented on Scott Adams's article in Multiple Sclerosis and Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten-Free Diet Linked to Reduced Inflammation and Improved Outcomes in Multiple Sclerosis (+Video)

    2. - trents replied to Matthias's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      1

      Unexpected gluten exposure risk from cultivated mushrooms

    3. - Matthias posted a topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      1

      Unexpected gluten exposure risk from cultivated mushrooms

    4. - trents replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      9

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    5. - Scott Adams replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      IBS-D vs Celiac

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,328
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    VerafromNJ
    Newest Member
    VerafromNJ
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com communiuty, @Matthias! Yes, we have been aware that this can be an issue with mushrooms but as long as they are rinsed thoroughly it should not be a problem since the mushrooms don't actually incorporate the gluten into their cellular structure. For the same reason, one needs to be careful when buying aged cheeses and products containing yeast because of the fact that they are sometimes cultured on gluten-containing substrate.
    • Matthias
      The one kind of food I had been buying and eating without any worry for hidden gluten were unprocessed veggies. Well, yesterday I discovered yet another pitfall: cultivated mushrooms. I tried some new ones, Shimeji to be precise (used in many asian soup and rice dishes). Later, at home, I was taking a closer look at the product: the mushrooms were growing from a visible layer of shredded cereals that had not been removed. After a quick web research I learned that these mushrooms are commonly cultivated on a cereal-based medium like wheat bran. I hope that info his helpful to someone.
    • trents
      I might suggest you consider buckwheat groats. https://www.amazon.com/Anthonys-Organic-Hulled-Buckwheat-Groats/dp/B0D15QDVW7/ref=sr_1_4_pp?crid=GOFG11A8ZUMU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bk-hCrXgLpHqKS8QJnfKJLKbKzm2BS9tIFv3P9HjJ5swL1-02C3V819UZ845_kAwnxTUM8Qa69hKl0DfHAucO827k_rh7ZclIOPtAA9KjvEEYtaeUV06FJQyCoi5dwcfXRt8dx3cJ6ctEn2VIPaaFd0nOye2TkASgSRtdtKgvXEEXknFVYURBjXen1Nc7EtAlJyJbU8EhB89ElCGFPRavEQkTFHv9V2Zh1EMAPRno7UajBpLCQ-1JfC5jKUyzfgsf7jN5L6yfZSgjhnwEbg6KKwWrKeghga8W_CAhEEw9N0.eDBrhYWsjgEFud6ZE03iun0-AEaGfNS1q4ILLjZz7Fs&dib_tag=se&keywords=buckwheat%2Bgroats&qid=1769980587&s=grocery&sprefix=buchwheat%2Bgroats%2Cgrocery%2C249&sr=1-4&th=1 Takes about 10 minutes to cook. Incidentally, I don't like quinoa either. Reminds me and smells to me like wet grass seed. When its not washed before cooking it makes me ill because of saponins in the seed coat. Yes, it can be difficult to get much dietary calcium without dairy. But in many cases, it's not the amount of calcium in the diet that is the problem but the poor uptake of it. And too much calcium supplementation can interfere with the absorption of vitamins and minerals in general because it raises gut pH.
    • Scott Adams
      What you’re describing really does not read like typical IBS-D. The dramatic, rapid normalization of stool frequency and form after removing wheat, along with improved tolerance of legumes and plant foods, is a classic pattern seen in gluten-driven disease rather than functional IBS. IBS usually worsens with fiber and beans, not improves. The fact that you carry HLA-DQ2.2 means celiac disease is absolutely possible, even if it’s less common than DQ2.5, and many people with DQ2.2 present later and are under-diagnosed. Your hesitation to reintroduce gluten is completely understandable — quality of life matters — and many people in your position choose to remain strictly gluten-free and treat it as medically necessary even without formal biopsy confirmation. If and when you’re ready, a physician can help you weigh options like limited gluten challenge, serology history, or documentation as “probable celiac.” What’s clear is that this wasn’t just random IBS — you identified the trigger, and your body has been very consistent in its response.
    • Scott Adams
      Here are some results from a search: Top Liquid Multivitamin Picks for Celiac Needs MaryRuth's Liquid Morning Multivitamin Essentials+ – Excellent daily choice with a broad vitamin/mineral profile, easy to absorb, gluten-free, vegan, and great overall value. MaryRuth's Liquid Morning Multivitamin – Classic, well-reviewed gluten-free liquid multivitamin with essential nutrients in a readily absorbable form. MaryRuth's Morning Multivitamin w/ Hair Growth – Adds beauty-supporting ingredients (biotin, B vitamins), also gluten-free and easy to take. New Chapter Liquid Multivitamin and New Chapter Liquid Multivitamin Orange Mango – Fermented liquid form with extra nutrients and good tolerability if you prefer a whole-food-based formula. Nature's Plus Source Of Life Gold Liquid – Premium option with a broad spectrum of vitamins and plant-based nutrients. Floradix Epresat Adult Liquid Multivitamin – Highly rated gluten-free German-made liquid, good choice if taste and natural ingredients matter. NOW Foods Liquid Multi Tropical Orange – Budget-friendly liquid multivitamin with solid nutrient coverage.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.