Member Poll - Who Abstains From Other Foods Besides Gluten?

[CMCM]

  Ursula said:

Patti, I use (and may have to modify that) a mix of buckwheat flour, tapioca flour, arrowroot flour and ground hazelnuts (you can use ground almonds, but they are high in salicylates and out for me). I find that makes a nice flour. I don't know if you can bake cake with that. But I use it to make crumbs (with lard and maple syrup) to make a nice apple crisp. It also works well for cookies, and pancakes if you add liquid (almond milk is nice, if you can tolerate almonds).

Potatoes are high in lectins AND salicylates, and I can't tolerate them at all, so can't use potato flour.

I confirmed the salicylate intolerance, by taking aspirin and eating foods high in them yesterday, and I am quite ill today as a result. Oh well, at least now I know.

Deb, your husband might be intolerant to salicylates (all the things he can't tolerate are high in salicylates, except for the cheese). Check out the link in my signature and see what you think.

Ursula

Ursula...I'm curious what kind of reactions you get from potatoes. I have trouble with them myself....the worst are mashed although I can't imagine why that would make a big difference. But mashed definitely upsets me more than a baked potato. And tomatoes can bother me....a small amount of raw tomato isn't a problem, but the cooked tomatoes do...like spaghetti really can give me a bad reaction. And the aspirin connection is interesting....I haven't taken aspriin for years because it would always upset my stomach. I never realized all these connections.

Carole

[sillyyak]

I cannot eat potatoes or eggs. I get really bad pains and they just "feel heavy" in my stomach. I am also just about done with eating bananas. I can eat rice, which is good and rice pasta. I like quinoa because of its lightness. I am tending to eat lots of veggies, fresh and frozen and fresh fruit.

I like Kozy Shak pudding a lot They come in small manageable eatable portions and are a great evening snack. I am also now putting myself on a strict timed diet. I no longer eat anything past 9:00 p.m. I find that I wake up feeling much better and lighter.

[Ursa Major]

Carole, potatoes will cause (within 24 hours usually) bowel cramps, bloating, gas and diarrhea (actually, they will cause a reaction similar to being glutened in me). Tomatoes cause awful migraines.

I haven't eaten potatoes in four years (well, with the occasional exception, knowing what to expect ). And of course, they used to be my favourite food (along with rye bread)!

I don't know why mashed potatoes are worse, but I've read somewhere else that they are. So, you don't appear the only one who has that problem. Maybe it is something you add?

Krispin (the owner of the site my Lectin link leads to) calls the nightshade family the 'deadly nightshades', because they are supposed to be especially toxic. And from everything I've read over the years, they aren't good for anybody.

Did you know that your body will convert cooked potatoes into sugar faster than white bread after eating them? I bet they're one of the biggest causes of type 2 diabetes. But since they're a 'staple' food, it's not politically correct to say that (well, I've never been politically correct, and I am blunt, due to Aspergers I can't help that).

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  Ursula said:

Carole, potatoes will cause (within 24 hours usually) bowel cramps, bloating, gas and diarrhea (actually, they will cause a reaction similar to being glutened in me). Tomatoes cause awful migraines.

I haven't eaten potatoes in four years (well, with the occasional exception, knowing what to expect ). And of course, they used to be my favourite food (along with rye bread)!

I don't know why mashed potatoes are worse, but I've read somewhere else that they are. So, you don't appear the only one who has that problem. Maybe it is something you add?

Krispin (the owner of the site my Lectin link leads to) calls the nightshade family the 'deadly nightshades', because they are supposed to be especially toxic. And from everything I've read over the years, they aren't good for anybody.

Did you know that your body will convert cooked potatoes into sugar faster than white bread after eating them? I bet they're one of the biggest causes of type 2 diabetes. But since they're a 'staple' food, it's not politically correct to say that (well, I've never been politically correct, and I am blunt, due to Aspergers I can't help that).

That's interesting about potatoes....that's exactly the reaction I get. Not as bad with a baked potato, but as I said, mashed are killer for me. I haven't noticed tomatoes causing migraines for me, but it happenen enough when I would eat spaghetti with meat/tomato sauce....horrible stomach pain, burning. Of course, it could have been the pasta.....but I had eaten pasta in other ways without tomatoes and didn't get that. As much as I loved my spaghetti recipe, I just couldn't face eating it any more. I've also noticed that some foods affect me more in combination. As I mentioned, corn chowder...which is potatoes/corn, and I guess that would be a mega hit of starch converting quickly to sugar.

What are all the nightshades again?

[Ursa Major]

The nightshades are potatoes, tomatoes, peppers (all kinds, including chili peppers and paprika) and eggplant.

And the reaction was not likely the pasta (unless it wasn't gluten-free), but the tomato sauce. Or you might be intolerant to the combination of meat and tomato, like one of my daughters (she is also intolerant to the combination of meat and potato, as well as sugar and wheat, she won't believe me that it might be more than just wheat).

When you are intolerant to combinations you can usually eat those foods three hours apart from each other. Mind you, in the meantime I believe that you really are intolerant to one of those (or both), but get a really bad reaction to the combination.

My combination was grain and fruit. Now I know that I can't tolerate any grains, and the same goes for most fruits. Alone I didn't clue in to the reaction (especially because I was on codeine 24 hours a day for 'fibromyalgia' pain, which has pretty much gone away after going off salicylates). But the combination would be a killer, and cause obvious symptoms like huge hives all over, and being terribly itchy for a couple of days.

[Guest BERNESES]

I avoid gluten (of course), not much dairy (I will occasionally have mozarella, parmesan or cheddar cheese and sometimes I bite the bullet and have ice cream- the reaction differs every time- if I've gotten gluten in my system, bad news!).

I'm not a big soy fan- makes me queasy.

Nightshades definitely aggravate my arthritis so i eat them in small amounts (and usually pay but God- I LOVE Mexican food). Not lots of red meat although this might change as I'm low in iron and very fatiguede right now.

No vinegar except apple cider. I may as well have eaten a slice of 7 grain bread.

No alcohol except white wine and even that lately has left me feeling wrecked after a glass or two. I miss vodka but right now it's just not worth it!

Peanut butter and chocolate- my two favorite things in the world- are currently not agreeing with me Boo-hoo!

[drewsant]

I'm allergic to wheat, soy, fish of all kinds, tree nuts, and chicken. I'm pretty much gluten free. It's the soy I'm having a hard time with. Soy eliminates chocolate which is one of my favorite things, as well as anything that has been fried, even tortilla chips, and things I never would have thought of. I've been on what I call my "allergen-free diet" for about 2 weeks. Really not much change yet, but I got a stomach virus that caused a lot of problems for about 3 or 4 days, so I'm still waiting to see if it helps.

The fish and nuts and wheat and soy cause stomach cramps and diarrhea. Not sure about the chicken. I love chicken, but haven't eaten it since I was told about the allergy. I might have to eat some and see what happens.

[Guest Zmom]

my son: gluten-free and no dairy,soy,pork,poultry,rice,citrus(including tomatoes),peas,nuts,navy beans, bananas,grapes...

Me:gluten-free. I can only eat corn pasta (new) colman beef,land o'lakes eggs, chebe bread mixes (dairy free,gluten-free) some hormone-free chichen, occationally amy's marinara sauce, and spectrum canola mayo.

The brand of eggs makes a difference with my son.I guess its what they feed the chickens.

Went gluten free march 2005 but it was not until I gave up all rice products that my fibromyalgia improved 80%.-all the rice products had been certified gluten-free.

[traveljunkie]

I love these polls!

Myself: gluten, dairy, melons, citrus fruits, juice, beef, chicken, pork and processed foods

My son: gluten, dairy, all meat and seafood

My son and I are the gluten intolerants in the house, but my hubby and younger son, pretty much eat what I cook them and that's my diet!

[danikali]

  katzmeow21 said:

Hi- Hope you don't mind that this is a question that is off the topic but I was curious as to your diagnosis which is just so recent.

Did you ever have blood work done for celiac that came back negative. What did enterolab do? Dr. Green did genetic test? I am curious ad your info caught my eye and I am thinking about my two sons who both have symptoms but had blood tests that show negative. I'm trying to decide which test to do next.

regards mj

Okay, I know this is an old old post, but I was just reading through it and didn't realize that you were asking me a question! I'm so sorry..

So, first, I did enterolab, which showed gluten sensitivity. Then I had blood drawn with a different GI and it came back negative. She also did the biopsy which she said was negative until Dr. Green looked at it and said that it was positive. He also tested the gene and I have DQ8 (a main Celiac gene). So that is what has been established now. I go back to see Dr. Green in March or April and I am going to a nutritionist on Tuesday to help me figure out my other intolerances.

You said that your son's tests came back negative. Well, that could totally mean nothing, as mine showed nothing. Maybe you should try enterolab first before getting them a biopsy though because depending on how young they are, it's not really a pleasent experience.

Hope my reply isn't too too late. Probably is, and I'm sorry.

[corinne]

I tried just gluten free for a while, but symptoms kept getting worse so I finally started with just carrots and lamb and have been slowly adding foods back in. So far all grains including wheat, oats, corn, rice and quinoa, potatoes, beans, soy, fish, shrimp, dairy including cheese and caffeine and raw fruits or vegetables give me diarrhea etc. Right now, I'm eating canned peaches, diluted grape juice, any meat, well cooked carrots, zucchini and beets. Hopefully, things will settle down with time and I can expand my diet.

[pixiegirl]

On top of gluten being out, I can't have tomatoes, peppers, green beans, squash or peanuts, I'm quite allergic to all of them. I have mild reactions to: lettuce, apple banana, beef, chicken, corn, egg, orange, potato, soy, tuna yeast, these I can eat infrequently and I will have a mild reaction.

Susan

[Carriefaith]

I am allergic to milk so I also avoid dairy products. I read ingredients labels for dairy products just like I do for gluten.

[wolfie]

For me along with the gluten, I can't tolerate onions (whole or spice), garlic (whole or spice), peppers, seeds, dairy (although I will eat cheese and take a Lactaid) and now soy (that seems to be in large amounts though..like a glass of soy milk). Some fruits have given me issues since going gluten free too...bananas, pears, apples. I am eating a very bland diet right now.

Kim

[slpinsd]

I avoid lactose since before my diagnosis, since the reactions were obvious. Now that I have had other IgG intolerances tested, I avoid:

Bananas

Pineapple

Sesame

Egg whites and yolks

Sugar

Asparagus

Casein

Yogurt

Milk

Cottage Cheese

Blueberries

Cranberries

Lemon

Orange

Coffee (even decaf)

By experience, I also avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup and spicy foods.

[CMCM]

Besides gluten and dairy, I pretty much avoid soy even though I didn't test postive to it. I also get sick from potatoes (which I love) and cooked tomatoes bother me sometimes, although I don't think raw ones do. I also avoid fried things.

[covsooze]

I'm awaiting my York test results, and am just wondering, have those of you who've done IGg testing and eliminated the foods you were positive to found a real difference? My son'd paediatrician, who specialises in allergies and food intolerances, says that he has been unable to find any scientific research that definitely links IGg with food intolerance - he was very open to doing so, so I'd be interested to know if there's any 'proof' out there.

At the moment, apart from being gluten-free, I'm also DF, and don't eat tomatoes. Trying to avoid rice also. Anything fatty or spicey gives me problems. I'm allergic to blue cheese. I have my doubts about a few other things as well, but am waiting for my test results in the hope that will make things a bit easier...Sadly, I am too much of a foodie to bear starting with one food and adding others in gradually, although it may yet come to that.