Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Severe Recessive Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa (SRDEB) and Celiac Disease


great defender

Recommended Posts

great defender Newbie

Hi, i am a father of three children whom have Severe Recessive Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa (SRDEB). despite every attempt at good nutrition bar tube feeding they had faltering weight.. and we lost them to foster care nearly two years ago under neglect.. mum was just diagnosed with coeliac after i told the dr she had coeliac following research online. i had hoped that the children would receive a positive test for coeliac (something they had not considered until i mentioned it recently but one child's blood test result has just come back negative according to the social worker, whom has been informed by the hospital specialist. i have asked for the test results. i am aware they are tube fed mainly, and feel this may have interfered with the test, also they have a condition which can cause blistering and damage to their bowels with SRDEB.  

do you have any advice, do you think i am right in the tube feeding reducing chances of a positive test. what are the odds of a false result? 

The local authority here is totally geared against my family, and i am not just saying that as an angry person, after two years and depression, i have emerged and looked into our case and simply they did not support my family, ran the case purely on opinions of professionals rather than evidence based on fact and ignored our pleas that we did feed the children. since being in foster care, the child whom tested negative for coleiac has worsened iron deficiency, something she now needs occasional infusions or blood transfusions for. 

sadly their symptoms of SRDEB cover all symptoms of coeliac, so they would never be identified as such as sufferers. any advice or medical quotes/references, gladly welcomed. 

thank you for your time and consideration of my trouble. 

  • 1 month later...

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Claire grace Rookie

 

 

On 7/29/2020 at 3:10 PM, great defender said:

Hi, i am a father of three children whom have Severe Recessive Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa (SRDEB). despite every attempt at good nutrition bar tube feeding they had faltering weight.. and we lost them to foster care nearly two years ago under neglect.. mum was just diagnosed with coeliac after i told the dr she had coeliac following research online. i had hoped that the children would receive a positive test for coeliac (something they had not considered until i mentioned it recently but one child's blood test result has just come back negative according to the social worker, whom has been informed by the hospital specialist. i have asked for the test results. i am aware they are tube fed mainly, and feel this may have interfered with the test, also they have a condition which can cause blistering and damage to their bowels with SRDEB.  

do you have any advice, do you think i am right in the tube feeding reducing chances of a positive test. what are the odds of a false result? 

The local authority here is totally geared against my family, and i am not just saying that as an angry person, after two years and depression, i have emerged and looked into our case and simply they did not support my family, ran the case purely on opinions of professionals rather than evidence based on fact and ignored our pleas that we did feed the children. since being in foster care, the child whom tested negative for coleiac has worsened iron deficiency, something she now needs occasional infusions or blood transfusions for. 

sadly their symptoms of SRDEB cover all symptoms of coeliac, so they would never be identified as such as sufferers. any advice or medical quotes/references, gladly welcomed. 

thank you for your time and consideration of my trouble. 

If what they are being given currently is indeed gluten free then they could have a false negative.

Doctor's advise patients not to stop eating gluten until after testing because otherwise the test result can be inaccurate.

 

I am very sad to hear about what happened to your children, have you contacted an attorney? 

 

If you don't mind telling me where you live (Just your general area)  I can find out if there Is anyone in your area that I know of who might be able to help.

 

I have heard of other similar stories happening to families of children with rare genetic disorders, it seems that social workers don't often have much if any medical training and don't understand these conditions.

It may also be that they have a sort of prejudice because they may have encountered people who just use the story of having genetic disorders falsely and as a result, cause problems for everyone else who actually does because of stereotyping. Either way, you should be protected by laws against these things, and assuming there is no legitimate reason for them being taken, an attorney should be able to help you get them back. 

 

 

 

great defender Newbie

Hi, I tend to agree with your comment. I have indeed got a solicitor and barrister and we are currently going back through court as the local authority have now decided to place a further 3 of my children into Foster care on the basis of non compliance after covid 19 presented difficulties in them gaining access! We are in North Wales, UK.

Thank you

Claire grace Rookie

It sounds like a very difficult situation, I don't know anyone in that area but I pray that they're in good hands and receiving the best possible care until you are able to be reunited.  I know it must be very hard for you and for them.  Given their health condition, until  your barrister is able to straiten everything out, probably the best thing you can do for them is to reassure them that everything will be okay. I imagine it must be terribly stressful on them (even if they are in the best of care) to be separated from their parents. Please keep us posted  and I will keep them in my prayers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Scott Adams replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    2. - MogwaiStripe replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    3. - Butch68 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    4. - trents replied to Xravith's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      17

      Taking Probiotics but Still Getting Sick After Gluten – Advice?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,212
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Melissa McGowan
    Newest Member
    Melissa McGowan
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      This is a very common question, and the most important thing to know is that no, Guinness is not considered safe for individuals with coeliac disease. While it's fascinating to hear anecdotes from other coeliacs who can drink it without immediate issues, this is a risky exception rather than the rule. The core issue is that Guinness is brewed from barley, which contains gluten, and the standard brewing process does not remove the gluten protein to a level safe for coeliacs (below 20ppm). For someone like you who experiences dermatitis herpetiformis, the reaction is particularly significant. DH is triggered by gluten ingestion, even without immediate gastrointestinal symptoms. So, while you may not feel an instant stomach upset, drinking a gluten-containing beer like Guinness could very well provoke a flare-up of your skin condition days later. It would be a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable and long-lasting consequence. Fortunately, there are excellent, certified gluten-free stouts available now that can provide a safe and satisfying alternative without the risk.
    • MogwaiStripe
      Interestingly, this thought occurred to me last night. I did find that there are studies investigating whether vitamin D deficiency can actually trigger celiac disease.  Source: National Institutes of Health https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7231074/ 
    • Butch68
      Before being diagnosed coeliac I used to love Guinness. Being made from barley it should be something a coeliac shouldn’t drink. But taking to another coeliac and they can drink it with no ill effects and have heard of others who can drink it too.  is this everyone’s experience?  Can I drink it?  I get dermatitis herpetiformis and don’t get instant reactions to gluten so can’t try it to see for myself. 
    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
    • Scott Adams
      I will assume you did the gluten challenge properly and were eating a lot of gluten daily for 6-8 weeks before your test, but if not, that could be the issue. You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results, although it's not as common:  Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/  Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/  Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/  Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If your symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet it would likely signal NCGS.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.