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do you think celiac was around in ancient times?


DJFL77I

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DJFL77I Experienced

like during medieval times or ancient Rome?..


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The answers you seek are within grasshopper.  :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

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so now we cave people too

trents Grand Master
10 hours ago, GFinDC said:

The answers you seek are within grasshopper.  :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

This is a great article that is pretty comprehensive and up to date with the current state of knowledge of celiac disease. Thanks GFinDC. It occurs to me that this article would be a great tool to give to physicians he need to get up to speed quickly on celiac disease.

Brett92 Rookie

I know they think that King Alfred (0800's) had Crohn's disease which obviously isn't celiac but does make you realise that all these GI conditions affected them back then. 

His bishop recorded events of King Alfred's life which included his stomach complications which they also think led to his death.

Crazy to think that someone who was fighting off Vikings and unifying England had such a condition. The symptoms sound horrible. 

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/014107689108400518

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20 hours ago, trents said:

This is a great article that is pretty comprehensive and up to date with the current state of knowledge of celiac disease. Thanks GFinDC. It occurs to me that this article would be a great tool to give to physicians that need to get up to speed quickly on celiac disease.

Yep, if they would take time to read it! :) 


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On 12/27/2020 at 11:46 AM, DJFL77I said:

like during medieval times or ancient Rome?..

I'm pretty sure Epicurus had celiac disease, although it might have as well been some other gastrointestinal chronic illness. He and his contemporaries mention it a lot. Hence his philosophy. I've also heard some scientists suspect Blaise Pascal to have had celiac, as he had quite typical symptoms all his life.

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