effects on peritoneum/ rib cartiledge?

[wayne w]

Wondering if anyone else has experienced the cartilage on their ribs or their peritoneum being affected by gluten? I cannot tell which it is, but underneath the floating ribs has sharp pains and weird gurgling sounds. Been restricted from physical activity for months now. It feels like the cartiledge under my ribs has disconnected, but sometimes I get the pains and gurgling all over my stomache and occasionally even around to my back (though this is more of a dull pain), so that and the history of neuropathy stuff makes me think its my peritoneum.

 

I've been gluten free 4-6 now months after two years of some crazy neuropathy stuff - twitching, stomach (or peritoneum?) spasms, formication, white flashes in my eyes, spinal sensations, etc. Took me this long to figure out it was PRIMARILY the gluten. At first, I thought it was coffee or anything histamine/ caffeine related. Had hives and dry skin for years before something, either the death of my father or bathing in a dirty stream, catalyzed my full blown allergy to gluten then it got real crazy starting a little very two years ago.

 

Now  I am finding I am EXTREMELY sensitive to not just gluten, but also dairy, sugar (even grapefruit), and anything high in histamine (e.g. coffee, tomatoe juice). I've been drinking diet soda thinking its some low histamine method of getting caffeine, but now that seems to be bothering me too. 

 

Docs checked for parasites and found none, so unless its some exotic thing that is difficult to detect I think thats out. Had a CT 1.5 years ago when it was mostly just starting up and they found nothing. Now they are reluctant to do another CT.

[wayne w]

Just now, wayne w said:

Wondering if anyone else has experienced the cartilage on their ribs or their peritoneum being affected by gluten? I cannot tell which it is, but underneath the floating ribs has sharp pains and weird gurgling sounds. Been restricted from physical activity for months now. It feels like the cartiledge under my ribs has disconnected, but sometimes I get the pains and gurgling all over my stomache and occasionally even around to my back (though this is more of a dull pain), so that and the history of neuropathy stuff makes me think its my peritoneum.

 

I've been gluten free 4-6 now months after two years of some crazy neuropathy stuff - twitching, stomach (or peritoneum?) spasms, formication, white flashes in my eyes, spinal sensations, etc. Took me this long to figure out it was PRIMARILY the gluten. At first, I thought it was coffee or anything histamine/ caffeine related. Had hives and dry skin for years before something, either the death of my father or bathing in a dirty stream, catalyzed my full blown allergy to gluten then it got real crazy starting a little very two years ago.

 

Now  I am finding I am EXTREMELY sensitive to not just gluten, but also dairy, sugar (even grapefruit), and anything high in histamine (e.g. coffee, tomatoe juice). I've been drinking diet soda thinking its some low histamine method of getting caffeine, but now that seems to be bothering me too. 

 

Docs checked for parasites and found none, so unless its some exotic thing that is difficult to detect I think thats out. Had a CT 1.5 years ago when it was mostly just starting up and they found nothing. Now they are reluctant to do another CT.

*cartilage not cartiledge

[knitty kitty]

Welcome to the forum, @wayne w!

Yes, it's called Costochondritis.  

I had it while I was deficient in Thiamine Vitamin B 1 prior to diagnosis.  I've been supplementing with high dose thiamine (as Dr. Derrick Lonsdale suggested) and B Complex, magnesium and Vitamin D.  

Here are some articles from Dr. Lonsdale's website with Dr. Marrs

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/?s=Costochondritis

Your symptoms sound similar to Mast Cell Activation Syndrome/Histamine Intolerance/Fructose Malabsorption Syndrome.  

I found the Autoimmune Protocol Diet (AIP diet) is very helpful in getting ones health back.

Hope this helps!

Edited January 9, 2023 by knitty kitty
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[cristiana]

Another costochondritis sufferer here.  I get gastritis like symptoms when I am glutened, and burning particularly under my left rib.  But for some reason it seems to set off nasty, burning rib pain too, which wraps round the enitre left side of my lower ribs.   Maybe the associated bloating I get with glutening is a contributing factor.  It is really horrid and the pain got to me tremendously when first diagnosed because I just couldn't understand how it couldn't be something more serious.

There used to be a costochondritis forum, can't find it now.  I read it for many months some years ago and guess what - the person  who set it up ended up with a coeliac diagnosis!  

I'm not a doctor however - so before self-diagnosing, do mention this to him/her and see what they think.   

[wayne w]

Sounds very similar to what I'm experiencing. Starting to fear it might be chronic fungal or bacterial infection or cancer in the peritoneum, neither of which are good. Was unsure if celiac could do something like this so thanks. 

 

[wayne w]

On 1/8/2023 at 9:29 PM, knitty kitty said:

Welcome to the forum, @wayne w!

Yes, it's called Costochondritis.  

I had it while I was deficient in Thiamine Vitamin B 1 prior to diagnosis.  I've been supplementing with high dose thiamine (as Dr. Derrick Lonsdale suggested) and B Complex, magnesium and Vitamin D.  

Here are some articles from Dr. Lonsdale's website with Dr. Marrs

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/?s=Costochondritis

Your symptoms sound similar to Mast Cell Activation Syndrome/Histamine Intolerance/Fructose Malabsorption Syndrome.  

I found the Autoimmune Protocol Diet (AIP diet) is very helpful in getting ones health back.

Hope this helps!

Yes when this first started two years ago histame (mainly coffee) was what I thought was the only thing I'm reacting to. Now it's everything. Thiamine is one thing I've never looked into so really thank you