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Celiac and Tooth Loss

DSMITH

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DSMITH Newbie
DSMITH
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Hello. 

I was diagnosed with Celiac 15 yrs ago and stay on Strick gluten-free diet to avoid issues. In the last 2 years I've been dealing with 2 Tooth root resorption and loss of 2 teeth and process/expense of 2 implants.  Celiac Dr, Dentist and the Oral Surgeon have no idea why or how the teeth issues all of a sudden happened.   Does anyone have or no anyone that has Celiac and experience any teeth /root issues.  

Desperately searching for reason who and why it happened.

 

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trents Grand Master
trents
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Yes, I have tooth resorption going on as well with at least one of my front teeth. The dentist tells me it happens from the inside out and offered no explanation.

Russ H Community Regular
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It happens with primary teeth but should not happen with secondary teeth.I found a case associated with coeliac disease but it seems to be very unusual and possibly associated with vitamin D deficiency and mineral metabolism.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29335688/

knitty kitty Grand Master
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It's nutritional deficiencies in Calcium and Vitamin D.

Calcium can be reabsorbed from teeth as well as bones.   

As we age, we can have difficulty absorbing certain minerals like calcium from our foods.  Excluding dairy, a great source of calcium, makes getting sufficient calcium from foods more difficult.  

Leafy green vegetables like kale, collards, mustard and turnip greens are good sources of calcium.  (Stay away from too much spinach as it is high in oxalates.)

 

One-year Effects of Vitamin D and Calcium Supplementation on Chronic Periodontitis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3472001/

And...

The Role of Calcium in Human Aging

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4337919/

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DSMITH Newbie
DSMITH
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Thank you so much for your suggestion to stay away from too much spinach.  I eat spinach every day with chicken as a salad.  I'll definitely switch to Kale.

 

katbalou Rookie
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i have lost count as to how many teeth i have lost and how many crowns I have on the ones that are left. My dentist has told me it's due to the celiac disease, that was undiagnosed for a very long time. 

Wheatwacked Veteran
Wheatwacked
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Fourty two percent of US adults have low vitamin D.

Ninety eight percent of US adults don't reach the minimum adeqate intake of potassium.

Which group are you in?

"If your vitamin D levels are low, then your defense system doesn’t have the fuel to protect and repair infected teeth."  Tooth Decay: Vitamin D and the Dental Immune System

 "Potassium is a mineral that works to strengthen and prevent bones from breaking down. A lack of potassium can actually be the cause of tooth decay in some people, so make sure to break out the guacamole whenever company comes over." 7 SURPRISING FOODS THAT HELP TO FIGHT TOOTH DECAY

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