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A Question About Dairy

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barilla Explorer
barilla
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I have recently been dx with celiac and I hear some things about staying away from dairy. I can eat eggs, and cheese without getting any symptoms,, but if i were to have a glass of milk... forget it!

So the question is:

Is it safe to eat some dairy while trying to heal? Will that make healing slow down? Or does it not matter, as long as you feel ok eating it?

Does the dairy do damage or only the gluten?

Thanks~

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StrongerToday
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I was told to give up dairy, which was so hard for me. I slowly reintroduced it about 3 months after going gluten-free and still had trouble. I gave it up again until just a few weeks ago and have been having a bit of goat cheese here and there. (so yummy!!) Goat cheese supposedly has a different protein then regular cheese and for some is easier to digest. I think giving up the dairy, while it practically killed me to do so, helped my system to heal. You might want to do it for just a few weeks and see how it goes.

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francelajoie
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I am the same way. I did stop dairy for the first couple weeks until my bowels were normal. I do not react to cheese but I do take Lactaid supplements when I have milk or ice cream...no cramps that way!!

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lonewolf
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It's a good idea to eliminate dairy at least temporarily. Remember though, eggs aren't dairy - some people have problems with them separately though.

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jenvan
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I have recently been dx with celiac and I hear some things about staying away from dairy. I can eat eggs, and cheese without getting any symptoms,, but if i were to have a glass of milk... forget it!

So the question is:

Is it safe to eat some dairy while trying to heal? Will that make healing slow down? Or does it not matter, as long as you feel ok eating it?

Does the dairy do damage or only the gluten?

Thanks~

There isn't any definite evidence that says all Celiacs should give up dairy...however, dairy is one of the most allergic foods and does cause quite a bit of problems to many Celiacs...which is probably one of the reasons you have heard about it. I think you probably have to use some discernment in this area...it wouldn't hurt to give up dairy (I now believe it isn't as great or necessary as we are lea to believe growing up), however, if it is not a problem, I wouldn't elminate another item from your diet. I don't do dairy anymore b/c I figured out it causes symptoms for me. You could try a food/symptom journal to track if dairy is causing you problems. Also--is it an issue with dairy itself, or casein, or is it just a lactose intolerance when you have issues?

There have been a few studies I've seen that have observed dairy causing villous atrophy/damage as a reaction in babies and young kids...but this is pretty rare. I think unless you have a definitive problem with dairy, gluten is what you need to be worrying about.

barilla Explorer
barilla
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I'll try to give up the dairy..

oh good, I can still eat eggs! It's so hard to figure out what I can and can't have.

Here is another question: Is margarine (Country Crock) considered dairy?

And should I avoid things that say Whey. (is that milk?)

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MySuicidalTurtle
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My doctor told me to give up everything that made me sick and to slowly re-introduce it. That worked well on everything but dairy.

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I'll try to give up the dairy..

oh good, I can still eat eggs! It's so hard to figure out what I can and can't have.

Here is another question: Is margarine (Country Crock) considered dairy?

And should I avoid things that say Whey. (is that milk?)

According to Country Crock's website, the Willow Run Spread is the only dairy-free item. So all other Country Crock products would be off limits on a cf (casein/dairy free) diet. Yes-if you go dairy free, you have to avoid whey. Open Original Shared Link

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According to Country Crock's website, the Willow Run Spread is the only gluten-free item. So all other Country Crock products would be off limits on a cf (casein/dairy free) diet. Yes-if you go dairy free, you have to avoid whey. Open Original Shared Link

There is a margarine calle Earth Balance Natural Buttery Sticks that do not contain gluten, dairy or casien (which is the protien found in cows milk). It contains soy and this may be a problem for some. I am looking for a margarine that is conola oil based... I have been told there are some.

Sheep and Goats milk have less casien and might be different enough from cows casien that it wouldnt bother you. But I would cut out all dairy for now and then introduce the goat and sheep products after sometime of feeling better.

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According to Country Crock's website, the Willow Run Spread is the only gluten-free item. So all other Country Crock products would be off limits on a cf (casein/dairy free) diet. Yes-if you go dairy free, you have to avoid whey. Open Original Shared Link

My heart skipped a beat when I read this because we have been using country crock - this is from thier site

Are your products gluten free?

Country CrockTM Side Dishes do contain gluten. However, none of the Country Crock® spread or Spreadable Butter products contain gluten.

Just for clarification!

also Flieshman's has some gluten-free/df/cf selections

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My heart skipped a beat when I read this because we have been using country crock - this is from thier site

Just for clarification!

also Flieshman's has some gluten-free/df/cf selections

Yikes! Thanx for catching that...I meant to say the only dairy-free item and oopsed! I corrected my earlier post. :)

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