Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Blood Test Qustion


bchapa

Recommended Posts

bchapa Newbie

Ok, the test results, based off of blood work, for our 16 month old came back negative. The Dr. wants us to stay on the gluten free foods for about 2 months and then introduce him to gluten again. At that point, he will do another blood test. If this test comes back negative, there is a very good chance he does not have celiac. I know one thing, no negative testing, regarding this intolerance, is definitive.

This is the way I understand it, and please let me know if any body agrees or does not agree. They are testing for two antigens, DRQ2 or DRQ8. Neither of these were found in the last panel, but he had been on a gluten free diet for about 3 or 4 weeks. The next test will come after he has been introduced to gluten again. If he does have celiac disease, he should produce one of these antibodies that attaches to the gluten and causes damage to the small intestine. This would cause a positive result in the next test which would mean he probably does have celiac.

Has anybody out there gone through this procedure with their children? If so, has anybody had a negative result on the second test and their child still show an intolerance to gluten?

Thanks for reading,

Billy


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jestgar Rising Star

They didn't explain this to you very well.

DRQ2 and 8 are the genes and they don't routinely test for those. The antibodies are:

anti-gliadin, anti-tissue transglutaminase, and anti-endomysial (sp). Except for the names, your understanding is correct.

I think you'll find that many parents couldn't handle the results when they tried to reintroduce their child to gluten and that response was definitive enough for them.

happygirl Collaborator

If they did gene testing, it is HLA DQ2 and HLA DQ8. They are the Celiac genes. They will be there/not there regardless of gluten intake.

The full Celiac panel is (blood/serology)

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

Total IgA level.

www.celiacdiseasecenter.columbia.edu or www.celiaccenter.org

janelyb Enthusiast

My son had these tests done

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

They all came back negative except for the IgG one which I was told means it was inconclusive or negative however you want to look at it. My son was gluten lite when he took it and those #'s were high then I put in on a high gluten diet and those same #'s were still high. He has a ton of GI symtoms so we were told and decided to challenge him on the gluten-free diet. I basically am trying my best to treat him as tho he is truely celiac....we have had a few mishaps with cross contaiminations. But he is looking a bit better. The couple of times before we went strict gluten-free I gave him non gluten-free cookies or gold fishes and he instantly complained of tummy pain. My son is 3.5 yrs old. I have no doubt my son has a gluten intollerence...whether or not it is celiac is where I am stuck. I would love to get the gene test done but my doctor has swayed not to.

Good luck. I've been reading alot and from what I understand testing young kids under age 6 you often get false negitives.

kookaburra Rookie

They all came back negative except for the IgG one which I was told means it was inconclusive or negative however you want to look at it. My son was gluten lite when he took it and those #'s were high then I put in on a high gluten diet and those same #'s were still high. He has a ton of GI symtoms so we were told and decided to challenge him on the gluten-free diet. I basically am trying my best to treat him as tho he is truely celiac....we have had a few mishaps with cross contaiminations. But he is looking a bit better. The couple of times before we went strict gluten-free I gave him non gluten-free cookies or gold fishes and he instantly complained of tummy pain. My son is 3.5 yrs old. I have no doubt my son has a gluten intollerence...whether or not it is celiac is where I am stuck. I would love to get the gene test done but my doctor has swayed not to.

We're in the exact same boat (no positives except moderately high IgG). He has improved so much gluten free, but it is frustrating not knowing definitively. Have you made any other discoveries? Our son was treated for yeast, and the response was very positive. I guess that is controversial, though.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,202
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    PatBurnham
    Newest Member
    PatBurnham
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
    • Scott Adams
      I will assume you did the gluten challenge properly and were eating a lot of gluten daily for 6-8 weeks before your test, but if not, that could be the issue. You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results, although it's not as common:  Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/  Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/  Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/  Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If your symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet it would likely signal NCGS.
    • Xravith
      I'm very confused... My blood test came out negative, I checked all antibodies. I suppose my Total IgA levels are normal (132 mg/dl), so the test should be reliable. Still, I'm not relieved as I can't tolerate even a single biscuit. I need to talk to my doctor about whether a duodenal biopsy is necessary. But it is really possible to have intestinal damage despite having a seronegative results? I have really strong symptoms, and I don't want to keep skipping university lectures or being bedridden at home.
    • Scott Adams
      They may want to also eliminate other possible causes for your symptoms/issues and are doing additional tests.  Here is info about blood tests for celiac disease--if positive an endoscopy where biopsies of your intestinal villi are taken to confirm is the typical follow up.    
    • Scott Adams
      In the Europe the new protocol for making a celiac disease diagnosis in children is if their tTg-IgA (tissue transglutaminase IgA) levels are 10 times or above the positive level for celiac disease--and you are above that level. According to the latest research, if the blood test results are at certain high levels that range between 5-10 times the reference range for a positive celiac disease diagnosis, it may not be necessary to confirm the results using an endoscopy/biopsy: Blood Test Alone Can Diagnose Celiac Disease in Most Children and Adults TGA-IgA at or Above Five Times Normal Limit in Kids Indicates Celiac Disease in Nearly All Cases No More Biopsies to Diagnose Celiac Disease in Children! May I ask why you've had so many past tTg-IgA tests done, and many of them seem to have been done 3 times during short time intervals?    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.