Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Is Corn Safe?

xxndnromeoxx

Recommended Posts

xxndnromeoxx Newbie
xxndnromeoxx
Posted

Hello there, sorry I am new here, but I have seen conflicting views on corn and just do not know what to believe in for sure.

"Though corn (maize) is one of those grains that many people -- not just celiacs -- may be allergic to, it is not a grain that is thought to cause damage to the villi in celiacs. It is tolerated by most celiacs."

https://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodi...-51107127626.77

If this is bad for you, how can it be safe?

I tried searching to find the answer, but was not completely conclusive. I hope you all may help :) Thank you for your time, I really appreciate this so much!

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted

Welcome!

Corn is gluten-free.

Some people are allergic to corn ... that is what your quote is saying. It's not a celiac thing ... it's a food allergy thing for some people, celiacs and non-celiacs alike.

Juliebove Rising Star
Juliebove
Posted

From what I have been told, corn and even rice have gluten in them, but it is a different type of gluten than what we refer to as gluten. Why it is called by the same name, I do not know. You can eat corn safely unless you have a corn allergy. Some people do.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

Some people, including some celiacs, are allergic to, or intolerant to, corn. Corn does not contain a protein that triggers the celiac auto-immune reaction, so it is safe from a celiac point of view.

Soy is another food to which many people are allergic or intolerant. But again, this is a different issue than celiac disease.

I am allergic to crustacean shellfish, but this does not mean that all celiacs must avoid shrimp and lobster.

I hope this helps.

xxndnromeoxx Newbie
xxndnromeoxx
Posted
  • Author
Welcome!

Corn is gluten-free.

Some people are allergic to corn ... that is what your quote is saying. It's not a celiac thing ... it's a food allergy thing for some people, celiacs and non-celiacs alike.

Thank you Carla! That is such a relief. I must have misread the statement. Maintaining a gluten-free lifestyle is very hard. I make a pinto bean dip that I wanted to incorporate some corn chips with. This is what it contains

Open Original Shared Link

"Ingredients: Whole corn, corn oil, and salt. No preservatives"

So I assuming I am okay on this :)

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted

It is only difficult in the beginning. There is a steep learning curve!

I would eat the bean dip. I usually make my own, but that looks safe to me.

xxndnromeoxx Newbie
xxndnromeoxx
Posted
  • Author

Thank you Julie, and Psawyer, the clarification makes sense. Coming across "corn gluten" I was also confused as well. People who have allergies to the gluten in corn, how would they tend to show symptoms?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


xxndnromeoxx Newbie
xxndnromeoxx
Posted
  • Author
It is only difficult in the beginning. There is a steep learning curve!

I would eat the bean dip. I usually make my own, but that looks safe to me.

That is relieving :) You guys are wonderful, I am already in love with this place. By the way my name is Patrick, it's nice to meet you all! And it's nice to feel home.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted
From what I have been told, corn and even rice have gluten in them, but it is a different type of gluten than what we refer to as gluten. Why it is called by the same name, I do not know. You can eat corn safely unless you have a corn allergy. Some people do.

The word "gluten" literally means grain protein. In theory it can refer to any cereal protein.

We normally use it to mean four specific grain proteins: wheat, rye, barley and oats. The first three definitely trigger the celiac autoimmune reaction. Oat protein is not so clear, but most celiacs avoid it. Most oats are contaminated with wheat, and so contain wheat gluten.

"Corn gluten" is the protein in corn; it is not a celiac issue. Neither is "rice gluten," although you generally see "rice protein" instead. Glutinous rice is not a problem either. Glutinous means sticky. It is all very confusing at the beginning.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
Posted
Thank you Carla! That is such a relief. I must have misread the statement. Maintaining a gluten-free lifestyle is very hard. I make a pinto bean dip that I wanted to incorporate some corn chips with. This is what it contains

Open Original Shared Link

"Ingredients: Whole corn, corn oil, and salt. No preservatives"

So I assuming I am okay on this :)

Just a quick heads up while the Fritos may be ingredient safe my family have found that Frito Lay are products to avoid. The CC issues with this company are extreme. Consume with caution and if you have a reaction don't think you have developed another sensitivity until you drop their products and try a less risky brand.

  • 2 months later...
graindamage Rookie
graindamage
Posted

Actually, Corn is NOT gluten-free. All grains contain gluten, it's just that scientific studies have determined that the gluten in Barley, Rye, and Wheat is the type that causes damage to the intestinal villi. Oats are avoided because of contamination with Wheat. There is belief among some celiac's that uncontaminated oats may still cause problems for Celiacs.

Corn contains gluten. So if you get sick after eating corn then you should avoid it because it's probably causing some damage somewhere in your body.

Personally, I can eat a little bit of corn, but if I go a period where I eat corn products everyday, I get sick.

-Scott

mommyagain Explorer
mommyagain
Posted

I do okay with stuff made from corn meal (corn chips, bread, etc) but WHOLE corn kernals go through me like wheat, except the poo doesn't have that classic "gluten-poo" look. I've also heard non-celiacs talk about "corn-poo" and I'm assuming they have the same issue.

For me, gluten causes D for a day or two along with a few days of abdominal pain (pain/cramps last longer than the D). Corn causes 1 episode of D, without the abdominal pain. So, I assume (and hope I'm right) that the corn is not doing any damage to my intestines.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. JudyLou
      - JudyLou replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      Thanks so much!
    2. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      I have osteopenia and have cracked three vertebrae. Niacin is connected to osteoporosis! Do talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with B vitamins. Blood tests don't reveal the amount of vitamins stored inside cells. The blood is a transportation system and can reflect vitamins absorbed from food eaten in the previous twenty-four...
    3. JudyLou
      - JudyLou replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      Thank you so much for the clarification! Yes to these questions: Have you consulted dietician? Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies? Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia? Do you take any supplements, or vitamins? I’m within healthy range for nutritional tests, thyroid and am not anemic. I do have osteopenia. I don’t take any medications, and the...
    4. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      @JudyLou, I have dermatitis herpetiformis, too! And...big drum roll... Niacin improves dermatitis herpetiformis! Niacin is very important to skin health and intestinal health. You're correct. dermatitis herpetiformis usually occurs on extensor muscles, but dermatitis herpetiformis is also pressure sensitive, so blisters can form...
    5. trents
      - trents replied to Mark Conway's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      5

      Have I got coeliac disease

      And I agree with Wheatwacked. When a physician tells you that you can't have celiac disease because you're not losing weight, you can be certain that doctor is operating on a dated understanding of celiac disease. I assume you are in the UK by the way you spelled "coeliac". So, I'm not sure what your options are when it comes to healthcare, but I might suggest...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,155
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Beccad611
    Newest Member
    Beccad611
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • JudyLou
      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      By JudyLou · Posted

      Thanks so much! 
    • knitty kitty
      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      I have osteopenia and have cracked three vertebrae.  Niacin is connected to osteoporosis! Do talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with B vitamins.  Blood tests don't reveal the amount of vitamins stored inside cells.  The blood is a transportation system and can reflect vitamins absorbed from food eaten in the previous twenty-four to forty-eight hours.  Those "normal limits" are based on minimum amounts required to prevent disease, not levels for optimal health.   Keep us posted on your progress.   B Vitamins: Functions and Uses in Medicine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9662251/ Association of dietary niacin intake with osteoporosis in the postmenopausal women in the US: NHANES 2007–2018 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11835798/ Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/   Nutritional Imbalances in Adult Celiac Patients Following a Gluten-Free Diet https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8398893/ Nutritional Consequences of Celiac Disease and Gluten-Free Diet https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7422/15/4/61 Simplifying the B Complex: How Vitamins B6 and B9 Modulate One Carbon Metabolism in Cancer and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609401/
    • JudyLou
      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      By JudyLou · Posted

      Thank you so much for the clarification! Yes to these questions: Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, or vitamins? I’m within healthy range for nutritional tests, thyroid and am not anemic. I do have osteopenia. I don’t take any medications, and the dietician was actually a nutritionist (not sure if that is the same thing) recommended by my physician at the time to better understand gluten free eating.    I almost wish the gluten exposure had triggered something, so at least I’d know what’s going on. So confusing!    Many thanks! 
    • knitty kitty
      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @JudyLou,  I have dermatitis herpetiformis, too!  And...big drum roll... Niacin improves dermatitis herpetiformis!   Niacin is very important to skin health and intestinal health.   You're correct.  dermatitis herpetiformis usually occurs on extensor muscles, but dermatitis herpetiformis is also pressure sensitive, so blisters can form where clothing puts pressure on the skin. Elastic waist bands, bulky seams on clothing, watch bands, hats.  Rolled up sleeves or my purse hanging on my arm would make me break out on the insides of my elbows.  I have had a blister on my finger where my pen rested as I write.  Foods high in Iodine can cause an outbreak and exacerbate dermatitis herpetiformis. You've been on the gluten free diet for a long time.  Our gluten free diet can be low in vitamins and minerals, especially if processed gluten free foods are consumed.  Those aren't fortified with vitamins like gluten containing products are.  Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, medicine, or vitamins? Niacin deficiency is connected to anemia.  Anemia can cause false negatives on tTg IgA tests.  A person can be on that borderline where symptoms wax and wane for years, surviving, but not thriving.  We have a higher metabolic need for more nutrients when we're sick or emotionally stressed which can deplete the small amount of vitamins we can store in our bodies and symptoms reappear.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards. The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.    Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.   However, another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.   I recommend getting checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  More than just Vitamin D and B12.  A gluten challenge would definitely be a stressor capable of precipitating further vitamin deficiencies and health consequences.   Best wishes!    
    • trents
      Have I got coeliac disease

      By trents · Posted

      And I agree with Wheatwacked. When a physician tells you that you can't have celiac disease because you're not losing weight, you can be certain that doctor is operating on a dated understanding of celiac disease. I assume you are in the UK by the way you spelled "coeliac". So, I'm not sure what your options are when it comes to healthcare, but I might suggest you look for another physician who is more up to date in this area and is willing to work with you to get an accurate diagnosis. If, in fact, you do not have celiac disease but you know that gluten causes you problems, you might have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test available yet for NCGS. Celiac must first be ruled out. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the lining of the small bowel. NCGS we is not autoimmune and we know less about it's true nature. But we do know it is considerably more common than celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.