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Corn Gluten Allergy But Not Corn Allergy?


BaileysMom

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BaileysMom Newbie

Hi All,

This is my inagural post...I've recently received my Enterolab results showing Casein and two genetic antibodies for gluten (basically it said I don't have Celiac Disease but I have gluten intolerance). A few months back I took an IgG which showed an allergy to Corn Gluten but not Corn. How is this possible? What does this mean? Can I have corn? Popcorn? I'm also allerlgic to Rice so many times the literature states that Corn and Rice are two great alternatives to Gluten but what if I have Rice, Casein, and Corn Gluten allergies in addition to Gluten? I really haven't been able to find any information on whether or not I can have corn if I'm allergic to corn gluten...why would I react to one and not the other?

Thanks!

Shelley

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Oh my gosh Shelley! I am seem to have very similar issues.

I was recently diagnosed by EnteroLab as having two copies to the gene for gluten intolerance and having a severe intolerace as well as an intolerance for casein. And the way that I just found your post with searching the internet is by searching for a link between gluten intolerance and corn intolerance. I am searching for this as I have noticed that after eating corn products my belly bloats quite badly soon after and this will continue for days unless I cut out corn.

Did you ever hear of a correlation?

Thanks!

Kristen

Tricks67 Newbie

I to am having similar issues!!!! I have been diagnosed with Celiac Disease, but have found that eating corn is giving me a belly ache and bloating. I have searched to no avail about this. Is there anything, anywhere that tells that you can be allergic to both? If anyone has any info on this I would greatly apprecaite it.

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Bella001 Explorer

I to am having similar issues!!!! I have been diagnosed with Celiac Disease, but have found that eating corn is giving me a belly ache and bloating. I have searched to no avail about this. Is there anything, anywhere that tells that you can be allergic to both? If anyone has any info on this I would greatly apprecaite it.

I'm having issues when I eat corn as well.....just started to figure it out when I ate a dish with corn and felt so bloated it was almost like my stomach was going to burst open. No gluten other than corn gluten. I found a video from a doctor in Texas saying that most people with gluten intolerance have issues and inflammation when they eat oats and corn...even if it's packaged as gluten free. I'm not sure if he is correct but I'm trying to avoid corn and see what happens.

Skylark Collaborator

I to am having similar issues!!!! I have been diagnosed with Celiac Disease, but have found that eating corn is giving me a belly ache and bloating. I have searched to no avail about this. Is there anything, anywhere that tells that you can be allergic to both? If anyone has any info on this I would greatly apprecaite it.

You can have allergies or sensitivities to all sorts of different foods. Celiac does not exclude corn allergy. There is no evidence of celiac-type reactions with the autoimmunity from corn in the literature, so you probably only need to worry about whatever amount of corn makes you ill. Follow your natural inclination and avoid eating food that makes you sick!

It's not true that most celiacs get sick from oats and corn. Probably at least 90% tolerate them fine. Oats have been documented to cause the autoimmune reaction in a small percentage of celiacs so you have to be careful with those if they make you feel sick.

Something else to watch for is whether the corn is genetically modified. Some people react to GMO corn but can eat organic corn (which has to be non-GMO in the US).

bellysbetter Newbie

Yes, corn contains gluten. I am self-diagnosed recently (had IBS for years) gluten and dairy or casein intolerant - I have a problem with corn too so can't eat any "gluten-free" foods as they all contain maize starch which is corn. I am convinced that in years to come celiacs and gluten intolerant people, they will say oh yes and corn. Originally celiac history is specialists told them it was only a reaction to wheat, then it came about other grains. We are not meant to be eating grains I don't think, as humans. Some react I think they have the sensitivity or celiac gene to protect them. Those that don't have it I read are the not normal ones really as they have no warning system so keep eating it and eating it and end up with all manner of autoimmune diseases.

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I do not tolerate corn either, but I believe it to be the lectins in corn which disagree with my system. Lectins are a glycoprotein, and are found in wheat, corn, soy, peanuts, nightshades, dairy, legumes, citrus, all in quite high concentrations. They are very prevalent in our food supply in lower quantities in other foods. Some of us are intolerant to more than one lectin group.

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Yes, corn contains gluten. I am self-diagnosed recently (had IBS for years) gluten and dairy or casein intolerant - I have a problem with corn too so can't eat any "gluten-free" foods as they all contain maize starch which is corn. I am convinced that in years to come celiacs and gluten intolerant people, they will say oh yes and corn. Originally celiac history is specialists told them it was only a reaction to wheat, then it came about other grains. We are not meant to be eating grains I don't think, as humans. Some react I think they have the sensitivity or celiac gene to protect them. Those that don't have it I read are the not normal ones really as they have no warning system so keep eating it and eating it and end up with all manner of autoimmune diseases.

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Sorry, but that article is going to have to dig up some scientific references to convince me. Corn does not have "guten" as celiacs understand the word. Corn has prolamin proteins, but it does not have the gliadin that makes celiacs sick. Gluten intolerant patients "don't react to corn and feel fine after eating it" because it is a safe grain for almost all celiacs. The rest of the points in that article have nothing whatsoever to do with celiac. Dredging up ridiculous things like corn being an "incomplete protein" does not shore up this fellow's tenuous argument. (Most vegetable protein other than soy is "incomplete".) GMO has nothing to do with celiac disease either.

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