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York Or Enterolab?


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I have decided that I want to do further food intolerance testing because I am reacting to so many things. So far, I know that I react to gluten just by how I feel when I eat it. Also, my Gliadin AB (IgG) was strong positive. I have also been reacting to eggs, peanuts, soy and dairy...(although not certain if it is casein or lactose).

In reviewing the testing done by York and Enterolab I see that one is done with stool testing and the other with pin prick blood testing. York lab advertises that they test for 113 different allergens. Enterolab does stool testing for gluten, egg and dairy.

Has anyone had any results with either and if so could you share your experiences with me. I feel I need to get a better handle on what I would react to instead of getting sick after ingesting something. I have been gluten-free about a month now and am happy that I am in the right direction. Who would have thought that a lot of my problems were food intolerances! I was conviced that I had something feeding off my insides that was making me so sick.

Thanks for your input.


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I've used the York lab. I also chose the 113 food test with the idea it would give me a list of foods I can safely eat. I've dropped some of the foods and can tell a difference if I eat them. My problem is not intestinal, but skin. I itch and get eczema. Other foods on my list don't seem to bother me at all - no itching. But, I don't know if they are effecting me somewhere else over the long term. And then there are foods that were determined safe for me to eat, but cause me a sour, burning stomach.

I'm still somewhat confused with York's statement to me that it was not necessary for me to have consumed all the foods on their list before taking the test. Does their test look for the presence of existing antibodies, or my bodies propensity to create antibodies to new foods?

I'm sure I'm confusing you.

I believe overall, I am satisfied and have improved my health for having taken the test and following the elimination plan. Were I to take the Enterolab, I feel I would test positive for at least milk. I don't know if egg or yeast would. Although York gave me a positive for them, I don't perceive any change in my body when I eat them.

If you want to talk in more detail, shoot me a note.

Kelly

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Hi kelly,

I decided to go with York labs and spoke wi th someone there today. I actually paid for it and they are sending me the kit today. I decided on York because they test for a lot more allergens and I seem to be reacting to a lot of things. I'm sure Enterolab is good but but I don't know which way is better though...stool or blood. I figured I can always do the other one later on.

I really have to do something though because I am feeling awful: malnourished, dizzy, terrible muscle pain and migraines. I have been having such terrible reactions that I can't even sleep at night...between the stomach pains, nausea and sweating. I had some dairy last night that made me sooooooooooo sick. Today I am still feeling bad and have spent the day resting. I seem to get a lot of muscle pain with these intolerances. My dr ordered some blood tests to check nutritional values so I will do that ASAP. I guess he wants to see if I am absorbing OK.

One step at a time.

Mel

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