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I'm Confused About All The Bs

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gdobson Explorer
gdobson
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So I've been reading for a lot time that a lot of us do better with B supplements, but when I went to check them out, I relized there are a ton of different ones. I wasn't sure what to pick and I was afraid of over dosing myself.

Can someone help me out here? B12, Sublingual B, B complex? :blink:

Thanks.

Gina

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ravenwoodglass Mentor
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Get both the sublingual B12 and the B complex. If they have a 'stress' B complex with C that is a good one also. You could also go with a good multiple and the sublingual B12. Just make sure they are gluten free and say so on the box. Females should also make sure to be getting enough iron, if you are male or postmenapausal do not supplement iron unless your blood work says you need to. It can be toxic and build up in the liver and other organs if you take too much.

loco-ladi Contributor
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Also females should have extra calcium as well as what was mentioned in the above post...

I found Nature Made though drugstore.com you can view the labels online before ordering and the ones I take did say gluten-free on the label, did however doublecheck them when they arrived as well

gdobson Explorer
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Thanks guys - that is very helpful! :)

Gina

gdobson Explorer
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I found a gluten free Sublingual B 12 at Krogers last Friday and began taking it right away. Gosh, I can't believe what a big difference it has made for me. I'm kind of embarassed that I didn't realize I was missing something sooner. :P

Thanks guys!

Gina

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greendog
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I go to the Sams Club in Indy and buy the gluten free, yeast free, preservative free etc multiple vitimin/mineral compound for adults with active lifestyle. My wife and I feel a lot better when we take it. I also supplement those with extra Zinc and vitimin D. We're older so I had switched to the vitimin/mineral compound for older more mature adults, but it didn't do as well. Got to thinking, and just because I am older doesn't mean I am not active, which is why the other one is better for me. (i.e. my wife and I watch our 2 year old granddaughter 3 twelve hour days a week, and that keeps us very active.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
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I found a gluten free Sublingual B 12 at Krogers last Friday and began taking it right away. Gosh, I can't believe what a big difference it has made for me. I'm kind of embarassed that I didn't realize I was missing something sooner. :P

Thanks guys!

Gina

Made a real big difference for me also. Glad you are having good quick results. :)

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tom Contributor
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I used to take a sublingual B12 until, when going dairy-free, discovered that it, and most other brands, had lactose!!! :ph34r:

Does anyone know of one that's also dairy-free??

RiceGuy Collaborator
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I used to take a sublingual B12 until, when going dairy-free, discovered that it, and most other brands, had lactose!!! :ph34r:

Does anyone know of one that's also dairy-free??

Try Source Naturals, Methylcobalamin sublingual.

Here are some sites that offer it:

webvitamins.com

vitacost.com

vitanetonline.com

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