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Tooth Decay And Very Noticeable Hair Loss

radgirl

By radgirl
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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Your best bet is just to not use anything unless you're 100% certain it's gluten free. For the hair, check your ingredients, MAKE SURE THERE IS NO WHEAT IN YOUR SHAMPOO/CONDITIONER. The shampoo and conditioners I was using listed Hydrolyzed wheat protein. I stopped using them, and my hair is soft again, but unfortunately other people who use the same shower as I do refuse to change to something else, and as a result, I get itchy feet every time I shower. It's pretty strange.

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itchygirl Newbie
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Not to contradict, however for me just using baking soda to brush with works great. Plus it helps keep down the residual candida.

Yolo if you're not into flouride, the Caphosol I mentioned has no floride, only calcium and phosphate. Makes me feel like a mad chemist mixing it up B)

Caphosol is a preparation comprising two separately packaged aqueous solutions, a phosphate solution (Caphosol A) and a calcium solution (Caphosol B) which, when both ampule solutions are combined in equal volumes, form a solution supersaturated with respect to both calcium and phosphate ions.
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radgirl
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Your best bet is just to not use anything unless you're 100% certain it's gluten free. For the hair, check your ingredients, MAKE SURE THERE IS NO WHEAT IN YOUR SHAMPOO/CONDITIONER. The shampoo and conditioners I was using listed Hydrolyzed wheat protein. I stopped using them, and my hair is soft again, but unfortunately other people who use the same shower as I do refuse to change to something else, and as a result, I get itchy feet every time I shower. It's pretty strange.

Oh yes, my hair products are gluten free. I have been using Dove and my styling aids are gluten free as well. A couple of weeks ago, I ended up using a hair color with wheat germ oil in it. I about flipped because the color was already in my hair and it was too late. So, to avoid minimal ingestion, I had my mom wash my hair well, in the sink and then I showered. I think I was ok. I'm really bothered though by the amount of contradicting information. One person says this, someone says something else. one company says yes, another says no. I'm fed up with it. This is my life we are talking about - our lives. I need to be as safe as possible. I know that there is no way to be 100% completely safe, but for the love of Pete, if you know there is a possibility or a trace, something, anything, tell me so I can make the right decision.

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I make my own food and hygiene products from natural ingredients. I trust myself! :lol: Been given the same bull**** from all the companies I've called. Customer service hotlines are useless. It's true that you have to be careful, with all the recent studies on Celiac disease and how it may lead to REALLY scary stuff if left untreated. People think I'm just being overcautious sometimes and refuse to accept the fact that it's not at all like lactose intolerance.

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I make my own food and hygiene products from natural ingredients. I trust myself! :lol: Been given the same bull**** from all the companies I've called. Customer service hotlines are useless. It's true that you have to be careful, with all the recent studies on Celiac disease and how it may lead to REALLY scary stuff if left untreated. People think I'm just being overcautious sometimes and refuse to accept the fact that it's not at all like lactose intolerance.

I'll take lactose intolerance over this crap any day of the week! I'm with you! For the most part, I do trust the companies when I call. But when I get contradicting information, my trust goes out the window. I know that no production line can ever be 100% tracked (unless it's a dedicated facility or line), but give me a break. You should know your QA and have a standards and procedures in line that should make this pretty darn safe. Don't give me this crap of, "oh well, we don't put any gluten in there, but we also don't know where the materials come from to make our product". Since celiac disease/GI and the like on are the rise, companies better start upping the standards to make things safe and start complying with what the customers needs. Or else we will go elsewhere to find what we need. And don't say it will cost more, because it won't. Ok, rant/vent = over.

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MELINE
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does anyone know about kerastage products?? (it is a trademark for shampoos...It's french I don't know if you are using it...)

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radgirl
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does anyone know about kerastage products?? (it is a trademark for shampoos...It's french I don't know if you are using it...)

I believe that product is produced by L'Oreal or Revlon. I don't know anything about it. Have you tried calling the manufacturer?

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I believe that product is produced by L'Oreal or Revlon. I don't know anything about it. Have you tried calling the manufacturer?

I've never called any manufacturer before and ask him if there is gluten in his product...I guess I'll have to do that....I'm always afraid they are going to laugh at me..silly me...I'll get over it and have that question. Thank you!

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Yolo if you're not into flouride, the Caphosol I mentioned has no floride, only calcium and phosphate. Makes me feel like a mad chemist mixing it up B)

If there is some problem using baking soda please let me know. I am not aware of any problem. No chemicals, just easy...And my teeth are great. Especially since as I say I do take various mineral supplements I listed previously -- plus fibronylitic agents which reduce scarring and inflammation and help me metabolize those above minerals I am taking. Marshmallow root taken internally helps soothe and heal the intestines too--and thus mineral absorption is better and down wind the teeth and gums.

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Kristin81 Newbie
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Does anyone know if there is a direct correlation between hair products that contain gluten and hair loss? I've been on a gluten free diet for a month, but just learned that my Aveda conditioner has gluten in it. Of course I stopped using it immediately, but I was under the impression that celiac has to do with ingested gluten. Forgive me if this is a naive observation, I'm pretty new at this. But if anyone has any info on gluten hair products causing hair loss, I'd be very interested.

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Does anyone know if there is a direct correlation between hair products that contain gluten and hair loss? I've been on a gluten free diet for a month, but just learned that my Aveda conditioner has gluten in it. Of course I stopped using it immediately, but I was under the impression that celiac has to do with ingested gluten. Forgive me if this is a naive observation, I'm pretty new at this. But if anyone has any info on gluten hair products causing hair loss, I'd be very interested.

Kristin, this is a great question and by no means naive. I've wondered the same thing. Hopefully someone can shed more light on this issue.

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ravenwoodglass
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Does anyone know if there is a direct correlation between hair products that contain gluten and hair loss? I've been on a gluten free diet for a month, but just learned that my Aveda conditioner has gluten in it. Of course I stopped using it immediately, but I was under the impression that celiac has to do with ingested gluten. Forgive me if this is a naive observation, I'm pretty new at this. But if anyone has any info on gluten hair products causing hair loss, I'd be very interested.

Yes there is. Gluten is absorbed through mucous membranes, including those in the nose and mouth. Even a tiny amount that accidentally gets into your system will keep the autoimmune process going. For those of us who lose hair it is often this autoimmune process that is more at fault for the loss than poor nutritional uptake but both can be a factor.

Kristin81 Newbie
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Yes there is. Gluten is absorbed through mucous membranes, including those in the nose and mouth. Even a tiny amount that accidentally gets into your system will keep the autoimmune process going. For those of us who lose hair it is often this autoimmune process that is more at fault for the loss than poor nutritional uptake but both can be a factor.

Raven - Thanks for the reply :) This gives me more hope that my hair will stop falling out and actually begin to re-grow soon!

jasmari Newbie
jasmari
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Hi there.

I started having hair loss problems last summer and it's been falling out steadily since then. My only saving grace is that I see new hair coming in but it's still getting so thin. I too had hair in the tub, on the pillow, etc. I saw a determatologist who ran all kinds of tests. All we could pin point was the low iron. Even the celiac bloodwork came back normal. However, I recently had a biopsy and that showed positive for celiac (I guess this happens). In any case, I'm confident that the celiac is at the root (no pun intended) of the problem. From what I've read on this subject, once the body starts responding to the gluten free diet, this usually takes care of the hair loss problem.

I know how you feel. It's a huge emotional issue especially for women and I"m so tired of people telling me to stop worrying. Hang in there!

Rita

jasmari Newbie
jasmari
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Hi there.

I started having hair loss problems last summer and it's been falling out steadily since then. My only saving grace is that I see new hair coming in but it's still getting so thin. I too had hair in the tub, on the pillow, etc. I saw a determatologist who ran all kinds of tests. All we could pin point was the low iron. Even the celiac bloodwork came back normal. However, I recently had a biopsy and that showed positive for celiac (I guess this happens). In any case, I'm confident that the celiac is at the root (no pun intended) of the problem. From what I've read on this subject, once the body starts responding to the gluten free diet, this usually takes care of the hair loss problem.

I know how you feel. It's a huge emotional issue especially for women and I"m so tired of people telling me to stop worrying. Hang in there!

Rita

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