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Was In The Er Yet Again This Morning...

Guest spruette

By Guest spruette
in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease

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Guest spruette
Guest spruette
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This time, the diagnosis was allergies as to why my throat keeps closing up. I have been on steriodal inhalers, nasal sprays, allergy meds, just about everything under the sun. Today I come home with somg Guaifenex. :huh: Yes, I have a lot of build up on my throat but should that cause the actual throat muscles to close up? They didn't run one x-ray and didn't run one blood test. We were in there for approx. 20 minutes. There is a strike going on next door, wondering if that has anything to do with it.

Oh my goodness gracious though, can I brag about how much better my stomach has been doing already? :) I haven't even been gluten free for a week yet, and I am so impressed with my stomach. It isn't gurgling as my hubby and I call it, and the nausia is nearly non-existant. I didn't even take compazine last night, and I have taken that for 9 years not missing one single day. At least I know there is ONE good doctor out there!! Thank you Dr. Fern!! I'm so grateful for that at least today.

How is everyone doing? I am praying for all of you! :) Take care!

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plantime
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Your throat closing up sounds like an asthmatic allergic reaction. My throat does the same thing if I get into or eat something I'm allergic to. Very scary! Doc gave me albuterol inhalers to use when that happens. The inhalers work very well for me!

Guest spruette
Guest spruette
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Hi!

Thank you for your reply. You know what? I am on Albuterol. It doesn't seem to help this. It's so weird. But part of that may be the mail-order pharmacy we have to use. A lot of their meds have not worked, so it's possible that the ones I have been using are bad.

I was hoping this was something to do with Celiac. But I am not sure. Doesn't seem to be many others having this problem. It's the scariest feeling though. Honestly. I am taking a decongestant and hope that helps but that makes me feel nausious, so who knows?

Thanks so much for replying. :) (I like your qoute, by the way.) :)

tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
Posted

albuterol won't help for an anaphylactic allergy - which can cause your throat to close. (it'll help with an asthmatic reaction, that can be similar, but different.) do go see an allergist - if you have an anaphylactic allergy, you need to carry an epi-pen around with you.

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mscriber Newbie
mscriber
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I had that happen once and took Benadryl. can you take that? It worked for me, but was very scary while it was going on, but my Dr. was mad and said I should have been in the ER because my throat was so closed up. :o Oops!

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aaascr
Posted

Take your decongestant with some food - otherwise you will definitely feel sick.

I had a fill-in allergy doctor prescribe an inhaler for me since my old prescription had expired.

And guess what? that inhaler (emergency) sucks. I would hate to think what would happen if I had a "closing your lungs down" attack (like when I ingest soy). Fortunately, I have an appointment in a few days and I am going to insist on

using one of the inhalers that actually works for me. Not all inhalers work the

same on everyone - yes, carrying an epi-pen is great idea!

tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
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inhalers definitely work differently in different people - and if you've got asthma, while some docs will put you on long acting inhalers (like advair), you really have to carry a fast acting one too (like albuterol). ironically, the propellant used in MDI (metered dose inhalers) can be a _trigger_ to some people's asthma (some people like me!), and some doctors have a hard time believing it. DPI (dry powder inhalers) can be used instead (I use maxair... still makes me shakey, though). (And to make it yet worse, the generics and brand names DO affect people differently....)

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I find that the doctors in the ER are too busy and they just seem to want to get you out of there as fast as they can. They just want to give you a prescription and send you on your merry way. They don't seem to have the time to do a few simple tests to rule something out.

As an example, I went into the ER about 5/6 years ago with a horrible back injury that I got at work. I was in a wheelchair... I couldn't walk beacause I was in immense pain. When they were looking at my back they said something like, it could be nerve damage or a broken/busted back disk. They NEVER took an X-ray, which makes no sense what-so-ever (I mean broken disk vs. nerve damage? Pretty big difference!).

Anyway, they just gave me a prescription for tylenol 3 and said, take one tylenol 3 and 3 advil at a time for pain! NICE...

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