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- trents replied to GlorietaKaro's topic in Super Sensitive People2Am I nuts?
Welcome to the celiac.com community, @GlorietaKaro! As Scott indicated, without formal testing for celiac disease, which would require you to have been consuming generous amounts of gluten daily for weeks, it would be not be possible to distinguish whether you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). Their symptoms overlap. The difference... -
- Russ H posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms0Anti-endomysial Antibody (EMA) Testing
I thought this might be of interest regarding anti-EMA testing. Some labs use donated umbilical cord instead of monkey oesophagus. Some labs just provide a +ve/-ve test result but others provide a grade by testing progressively diluted blood sample. https://www.aesku.com/index.php/ifu-download/1367-ema-instruction-manual-en-1/file Fluorescence-labelled... -
- Scott Adams replied to JoJo0611's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease1Just diagnosed today
First, please know that receiving two diagnoses at once, especially one you've never heard of, is undoubtedly overwhelming. You are not alone in this. Your understanding is correct: both celiac disease and Mesenteric Panniculitis (MP) are considered to have autoimmune components. While having both is not extremely common, they can co-occur, as chronic inflammation... -
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Am I nuts?
Your experience is absolutely valid, and you are not "nuts" or a "complete weirdo." What you are describing aligns with severe neurological manifestations of gluten sensitivity, which is a recognized, though less common, presentation. Conditions like gluten ataxia and peripheral neuropathy are documented in medical literature, where gluten triggers an autoimmune... -
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Welcome to the celiac.com community, @GlorietaKaro! As Scott indicated, without formal testing for celiac disease, which would require you to have been consuming generous amounts of gluten daily for weeks, it would be not be possible to distinguish whether you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). Their symptoms overlap. The difference being that celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the lining of the small bowel. We actually no more about celiac disease than we do about NCGS, the mechanism of the latter being more difficult to classify. There are specific antibody tests for celiac disease diagnosis and there is also the endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel lining. Currently, there are no tests to diagnose NCGS. Celiac disease must first ruled out. Researchers are working on developing testing methods to diagnose celiac disease that do not require a "gluten challenge" which is just out of the question for so many because it poses serious, even life-threatening, health risks. But we aren't there yet. -
That’s really frustrating, I’m sorry you went through that. High fiber can definitely cause sudden stomach issues, especially if your body isn’t used to it yet, but accidental gluten exposure can feel similar. Keeping a simple food/symptom journal and introducing new foods one at a time can really help you spot patterns. You’re already doing the right things with cleaning and separating baking—also watch shared toasters, cutting boards, and labels like “may contain.”
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I thought this might be of interest regarding anti-EMA testing. Some labs use donated umbilical cord instead of monkey oesophagus. Some labs just provide a +ve/-ve test result but others provide a grade by testing progressively diluted blood sample. https://www.aesku.com/index.php/ifu-download/1367-ema-instruction-manual-en-1/file Fluorescence-labelled anti-tTG2 autoantibodies bind to endomysium (the thin layer around muscle fibres) forming a characteristic honeycomb pattern under the microscope - this is highly specific to coeliac disease. The binding site is extracellular tTG2 bound to fibronectin and collagen. Human or monkey derived endomysium is necessary because tTG2 from other mammals does not provide the right binding epitope. https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/26/3/1012
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By Scott Adams · Posted
First, please know that receiving two diagnoses at once, especially one you've never heard of, is undoubtedly overwhelming. You are not alone in this. Your understanding is correct: both celiac disease and Mesenteric Panniculitis (MP) are considered to have autoimmune components. While having both is not extremely common, they can co-occur, as chronic inflammation from one autoimmune condition can sometimes be linked to or trigger other inflammatory responses in the body. MP, which involves inflammation of the fat tissue in the mesentery (the membrane that holds your intestines in place), is often discovered incidentally on scans, exactly as in your case. The fact that your medical team is already planning follow-up with a DEXA scan (to check bone density, common after a celiac diagnosis) and a repeat CT is a very proactive and prudent approach to monitoring your health. Many find that adhering strictly to the gluten-free diet for celiac disease helps manage overall inflammation, which may positively impact MP over time. It's completely normal to feel uncertain right now. Your next steps are to take this one day at a time, focus on the gluten-free diet as your primary treatment for celiac, and use your upcoming appointments to ask all your questions about MP and what the monitoring plan entails. This dual diagnosis is a lot to process, but it is also the starting point for a managed path forward to better health. This article has some detailed information on how to be 100% gluten-free, so it may be helpful (be sure to also read the comments section.): -
By Scott Adams · Posted
Your experience is absolutely valid, and you are not "nuts" or a "complete weirdo." What you are describing aligns with severe neurological manifestations of gluten sensitivity, which is a recognized, though less common, presentation. Conditions like gluten ataxia and peripheral neuropathy are documented in medical literature, where gluten triggers an autoimmune response that attacks the nervous system, leading to symptoms precisely like yours—loss of coordination, muscle weakness, fasciculations, and even numbness. The reaction you had from inhaling flour is a powerful testament to your extreme sensitivity. While celiac disease is commonly tested, non-celiac gluten sensitivity with neurological involvement is harder to diagnose, especially since many standard tests require ongoing gluten consumption, which you rightly fear could be dangerous. Seeking out a neurologist or gastroenterologist familiar with gluten-related disorders, or consulting a specialist at a major celiac research center, could provide more validation and possibly explore diagnostic options like specific antibody tests (e.g., anti-gliadin or transglutaminase 6 antibodies) that don't always require a gluten challenge. You are not alone; many individuals with severe reactivity navigate a world of invisible illness where their strict avoidance is a medical necessity, not a choice. Trust your body's signals—it has given you the most important diagnosis already.
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