Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Concern


solo

Recommended Posts

solo Newbie

Hello everyone. My main concern is I have an inkling I have been misdiagnosed. I was reading a site on the symptoms of Celiac Disease, and I have many of them. But I am 28 years old, and was diagnosed with Cystic Fibrosis in 1979. About 10 or so years ago I aquired type 1 diabetes as well. But for the weird part, as you may know Cf mostly effects the lungs. I have had much luck in the breathing department, but I have terrible digestive problems. In the 3 months when I was born, I had 3 surgeries alone, and over the years more surgeries for bowl obstruction. I must take digestive enzymes to properly digest food. Over the past week or so, I have been eating mostly organic and a few gluten-free foods, and feeling better. I don't know if this is a coincidence or what?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Juliebove Rising Star

Or... It could be food allergies. My daughter is allergic to both wheat and gluten. Or... You might have gastroparesis from the diabetes. I do. You might want to see a gastroenterologist. But at least you're feeling better!

RiceGuy Collaborator

Welcome to the board!

As is often said around here; if the gluten-free diet helps you to feel better, then go with it. Many of us (including myself) are self-diagnosed. So I'd say try going completely gluten-free and see what happens. However, you may find cutting out a few other things helps too. A lot of people find dairy is a problem too.

Hope you get it nailed down soon!

solo Newbie

Thanks for ther replies. I will stick with the gluten-free diet for awhile to see if my symptoms get any better. I was reading the ingredients on one of my organic pop-tart packages and it listed organic wheat gluten- is that bad? I would think since its organic its ok, I don't know, you guys are the experts. Opposed to food allergies, I had these digestive problems long before I contracted diabetes, and the doctors surgically removed some of my colon so I constantly have a bile overgrowth, so that means I have gas constantly.

Piccolo Apprentice

Solo,

I just noticed you are going gluten free. You stated that your pop tarts have wheat gluten in them. They are not safe. Being gluten free means not hving anything with Wheat, barley, rye, and sometimes oats.

Susan

solo Newbie
Solo,

I just noticed you are going gluten free. You stated that your pop tarts have wheat gluten in them. They are not safe. Being gluten free means not hving anything with Wheat, barley, rye, and sometimes oats.

Susan

O, ok, thanks. I just figured since they are organic they are ok. Man, looking at alot of my food it seems the ingredient table lists organic wheat on so many. I am already restricting my diet, this is gonna be really hard staying on a gluten-free diet.

Edit: I am heavily debating that I might go to the doctor tomorrow and get tested for Celiac disease. Does anyone think it will come out positive anyway just because of my digestive issues with CF?

Adelle Enthusiast

1stly welcome.

2ndly, expect some resistance from your doctor about celiac testing. Hopefully they will "let" you get tested (that means a full blood panel followed by an endoscopy and biopsy). Just know that the tests can't rule celiac out, they can only rule it in. So even if your tests are negative, it just means they didn't happen to catch it. I really hope you'll follow the diet (after testing so that the testing is as accurate as possible) and see if it helps anyway. I had + bloodwork but my doc said it was "silly" to go gluten-free and that since the problems I had (rapid heart rate, breathing issues, ataxia, peripheral neuropathy, narcolepsy, extreme weakness, etc etc) were all in my head, the died wouldn't do anything. This was after I was gluten-free for 1 week and had walked into his office unaided (I had been using a cane or a walker, I was 21) for the first time. Yeah, all in my head <_<

Okay, about the diet. Organic has NOTHING to do with gluten free. Nothing. Most organic pre-packaged food will contain gluten simply because most pre-packaged food in general has gluten in it. So you're going to have to mentally separate those two ideas. An easy way to try the diet is to eat SUPER simply. Nothing from a package. Just cook up some meat, steam some vegis, and maybe some rice or quinoa for a while. Then you can start reading ingredients on packages as you feel comfortable doing so. There's also the matter of toiletry products (lotions, makeup etc) being gluten-free, and cross contamination in your own kitchen. Feel free to ask and ask. NO QUESTION is stupid!!!

I know that some people have a huge compiled list of products (sauces etc) that are gluten-free so maybe someone will post some???

I'm so glad that you're questioning this diet. It really does help TONS of people. Even if you don't have celiac itself, gluten could be affecting your overall health! Welcome! Ask every question you can think of (cause someone on this board has been there before!), because you are SO worth being healthy!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



solo Newbie
1stly welcome.

2ndly, expect some resistance from your doctor about celiac testing. Hopefully they will "let" you get tested (that means a full blood panel followed by an endoscopy and biopsy). Just know that the tests can't rule celiac out, they can only rule it in. So even if your tests are negative, it just means they didn't happen to catch it. I really hope you'll follow the diet (after testing so that the testing is as accurate as possible) and see if it helps anyway. I had + bloodwork but my doc said it was "silly" to go gluten-free and that since the problems I had (rapid heart rate, breathing issues, ataxia, peripheral neuropathy, narcolepsy, extreme weakness, etc etc) were all in my head, the died wouldn't do anything. This was after I was gluten-free for 1 week and had walked into his office unaided (I had been using a cane or a walker, I was 21) for the first time. Yeah, all in my head <_<

Wow, thanks for the reply. I don't know if I'll have to "worry" about a doctor letting them stab me in the arm to take some blood, after all I am the patient, and I have money. Money makes the world go round, and it talks. If I told the doctor that I would pay them to sing the star spangled banner, I'm more than sure they would. I can't believe you had to use a cane or walker at 21, was it because of Celiac? At times, more recently since I am older, my legs are getting harder to pick up and my blance is erratic.

Okay, about the diet. Organic has NOTHING to do with gluten free. Nothing. Most organic pre-packaged food will contain gluten simply because most pre-packaged food in general has gluten in it. So you're going to have to mentally separate those two ideas. An easy way to try the diet is to eat SUPER simply. Nothing from a package. Just cook up some meat, steam some vegis, and maybe some rice or quinoa for a while. Then you can start reading ingredients on packages as you feel comfortable doing so. There's also the matter of toiletry products (lotions, makeup etc) being gluten-free, and cross contamination in your own kitchen. Feel free to ask and ask. NO QUESTION is stupid!!!

I know that some people have a huge compiled list of products (sauces etc) that are gluten-free so maybe someone will post some???

I'm so glad that you're questioning this diet. It really does help TONS of people. Even if you don't have celiac itself, gluten could be affecting your overall health! Welcome! Ask every question you can think of (cause someone on this board has been there before!), because you are SO worth being healthy!

Geese, it sounds like there's so many restictions on what you can eat. With CF and diabetes I am already fighting to maintain/gain weight. It's like I'm going to a gunfight with a knife. I sincerely hope that they were wrong diagnosing me with CF in 1979, and it really is Celiac. Afterall, I didn't have any lung problems till I was in my late teens, and even if someone healthy is bombarded with nebs and antibiotics every day for years, they will exhibit sideeffects. Diagnosing something in 1979 is a bit like a caveman putting together an erubix cube.

Thanks for the info. B)

LuvMoosic4life Collaborator

If you can go to the doctor tommarow then do it!!! or at least get in BEFORE you go gluten-free. if you go gluten-free before getting tested it could turn up negative. Be glad you are in the position that you recognized you may have celiacs and can make a doctors appointment. I had all the symptoms of it for over 6 years. by the time I recognized it could be celiac, I didn't have doctor and and my school health center at college just laughed at me because I said I suffered from gas/bloating/ diarhea. So I got fed up and went on the gluten-free diet because I didnt have anyone to help me. I was so sick on gluten at the time I just had to get off of it, now I'll never no for sure if I have celiacs or not because I cant go back, gluten makes me too sick. I feel better either way, but still its nice to no FOR SURE if you have it or not. It also makes the explanation to family easier if you are officially diagnosed :)

good luck, feel better!

solo Newbie

Thanks, but I was just at my mother's house and we had quite a chat on this subject. She tried to hammer home that I'm a hypochondriac and when I was real young she tried to tell the doctor's to test me for it and I guess the doctor's were so sure that it was just CF so they blew it off. I have a doctor's appointment next month with my CF doctor, so I'll be sure to bring this up with him. He is very cool and understanding and listens to my concerns, so I'm sure he'll give me the answers I'm seeking.

dollamasgetceliac? Explorer

Hi;

I just want to let you know that Gastrointerologists often mistake Crohn's for Colitis or IBS. Many Crohn's patients have part of their intestines removed. The wounds are deeper and can be spread out over the entire digestive system. Also Crohn's is becomming more commen, Children can get it at any age.

I am not a doctor , but I know lots of them.

Food allergies are very commen too, you need to be tested for that and even if the tests are negative you still may be allergic to some foods.

You ca visit the Food and Allergy Foundation

Most importantly is that you get a blood test and or a proper genetic test and perhaps a biopsy.

I think that if you have relatives they might want to know if you have Celiac that increases their risk for getting it. Dr. Peter Green writes a very good book On Celiac Disease a hidden Epedemic.

Read that also I started a thread here on the Topic Celiac and Diabetes , I started in Prediagnosis and moved it to Celiac and related Diseases. There are others here who have Crohn's,Food Allergies, Diabetesand Lyme just to name a few.

It is sad to hear yet another person having to explain their situation to friends and family and that they think you are a Hypocondriac. How could you be a Hypocondriac at 3 months. It would be nice if you added a post on the Diabetis a Celiac thread so that perhaps your input can help us all.

Thanks

Adelle Enthusiast

Don't worry about the diet too much. It's hard at first, but within a few months, it's as easy as gluten-free cake!! Ha ha!! It's not like all you can eat is unprocessed foods, but if you don't want to have to worry about reading ingredient lists for a while, it's the way to go! If you can find a like, whole foods or some other "natural" grocery store they'll probably have a gluten-free foods list.

I really hope it is that easy for you to get tested. For the blood test I had to threaten not to leave the office. He threatened to have me arrested. I said okay, but I'd make a scene for all of his nice little patients in the waiting room. He then ordered the blood test. Often, it's NOT that easy. But I hope it is for you!!

Don't listen to your mom. I don't speak with my family at all anymore. My mother did the exact same thing, and I just can't allow someone in my life who would think that about me. I'm not saying you have to cut contact with your fam like I did. But don't allow their opinions to dictate YOUR health!!

Good luck!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    2. - JudyLou replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    3. - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    4. - trents replied to Mark Conway's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      5

      Have I got coeliac disease

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,155
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Beccad611
    Newest Member
    Beccad611
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • JudyLou
    • knitty kitty
      I have osteopenia and have cracked three vertebrae.  Niacin is connected to osteoporosis! Do talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with B vitamins.  Blood tests don't reveal the amount of vitamins stored inside cells.  The blood is a transportation system and can reflect vitamins absorbed from food eaten in the previous twenty-four to forty-eight hours.  Those "normal limits" are based on minimum amounts required to prevent disease, not levels for optimal health.   Keep us posted on your progress.   B Vitamins: Functions and Uses in Medicine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9662251/ Association of dietary niacin intake with osteoporosis in the postmenopausal women in the US: NHANES 2007–2018 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11835798/ Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/   Nutritional Imbalances in Adult Celiac Patients Following a Gluten-Free Diet https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8398893/ Nutritional Consequences of Celiac Disease and Gluten-Free Diet https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7422/15/4/61 Simplifying the B Complex: How Vitamins B6 and B9 Modulate One Carbon Metabolism in Cancer and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609401/
    • JudyLou
      Thank you so much for the clarification! Yes to these questions: Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, or vitamins? I’m within healthy range for nutritional tests, thyroid and am not anemic. I do have osteopenia. I don’t take any medications, and the dietician was actually a nutritionist (not sure if that is the same thing) recommended by my physician at the time to better understand gluten free eating.    I almost wish the gluten exposure had triggered something, so at least I’d know what’s going on. So confusing!    Many thanks! 
    • knitty kitty
      @JudyLou,  I have dermatitis herpetiformis, too!  And...big drum roll... Niacin improves dermatitis herpetiformis!   Niacin is very important to skin health and intestinal health.   You're correct.  dermatitis herpetiformis usually occurs on extensor muscles, but dermatitis herpetiformis is also pressure sensitive, so blisters can form where clothing puts pressure on the skin. Elastic waist bands, bulky seams on clothing, watch bands, hats.  Rolled up sleeves or my purse hanging on my arm would make me break out on the insides of my elbows.  I have had a blister on my finger where my pen rested as I write.  Foods high in Iodine can cause an outbreak and exacerbate dermatitis herpetiformis. You've been on the gluten free diet for a long time.  Our gluten free diet can be low in vitamins and minerals, especially if processed gluten free foods are consumed.  Those aren't fortified with vitamins like gluten containing products are.  Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, medicine, or vitamins? Niacin deficiency is connected to anemia.  Anemia can cause false negatives on tTg IgA tests.  A person can be on that borderline where symptoms wax and wane for years, surviving, but not thriving.  We have a higher metabolic need for more nutrients when we're sick or emotionally stressed which can deplete the small amount of vitamins we can store in our bodies and symptoms reappear.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards. The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.    Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.   However, another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.   I recommend getting checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  More than just Vitamin D and B12.  A gluten challenge would definitely be a stressor capable of precipitating further vitamin deficiencies and health consequences.   Best wishes!    
    • trents
      And I agree with Wheatwacked. When a physician tells you that you can't have celiac disease because you're not losing weight, you can be certain that doctor is operating on a dated understanding of celiac disease. I assume you are in the UK by the way you spelled "coeliac". So, I'm not sure what your options are when it comes to healthcare, but I might suggest you look for another physician who is more up to date in this area and is willing to work with you to get an accurate diagnosis. If, in fact, you do not have celiac disease but you know that gluten causes you problems, you might have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test available yet for NCGS. Celiac must first be ruled out. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the lining of the small bowel. NCGS we is not autoimmune and we know less about it's true nature. But we do know it is considerably more common than celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.