Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Dh Vs. Pemphigus?


FlyGirl

Recommended Posts

FlyGirl Rookie

I was struck by how similar the DH rash is to my mother's skin problem. However, she was diagnosed with Pemphigus in 2002, another auto-immune skin problem. Is there any crossover between these two? Her 'treatment' has been a list of foods to avoid.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

A quick google search turned up an awful lot of stuff which I don't really have time to go through right now. I would advise you to enter pemphigus and celiac into a search engine and take a look at some of the articles, it appears they may very well be associated. Has she had a celiac panel or any other celiac testing?

FlyGirl Rookie

Actually, after reviewing the options I realized that my mom must have been diagnosed with bullous pemphigoid as that is the proper look and symptoms. Her main complaint is the severe itching and painful nature of the sores. At first they were exactly like the raised blisters shown in both the DH and bullous pemphigoid references. Now they typically don't blister but cause purple-ish itchy painful spots that sometimes do ooze clear liquid. Searching on both celiac & pemphigoid does pull up a number of matches, but no clear association. Seems even less is understood about pemphigoid than celiac.

My mom has several food sensitivities but is uninterested in doing anything with that information. She admits that if she stops eating wheat her nose 'stops dripping' and it appears that she stops getting the sores. But at 87, she's not very impressed by the idea that she should inconvenience herself with dietary restrictions.

I have dairy, soy and wheat issues, but have no celiac diagnosis. I had an endoscopy (2 weeks with gluten after 6 months without) and my gut looked like the picture of health, negative biopsies and blood work. My niece was just advised to eliminate wheat due to some rash and other issues she was having, don't have the details on that one yet. Eliminating wheat has become very fashionable so there is no reason to make assumptions here.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
I have dairy, soy and wheat issues, but have no celiac diagnosis. I had an endoscopy (2 weeks with gluten after 6 months without) and my gut looked like the picture of health, negative biopsies and blood work.

You need to be actively consuming a full gluten diet for at least 3 months before testing can have any possibility to be positive. If you were gluten free for 6 months that is plenty of time for the antibodies to leave the blood and the villi to heal and it takes time for them to get to the point of damage where doctors will diagnose celiac.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      130,805
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    JustSarah
    Newest Member
    JustSarah
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Since I've been a member of this forum,  I've seen some people write that they have not been able to tolerate corn, and others nightshades - tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, and peppers (including bell peppers, chili peppers, and paprika).    However, intolerances can be short term, just while you are healing.    So bear this in mind if you start dropping certain foods from your diet - you may well be able to eat them again once you are healed.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Izelle! Normally, the diagnosis of celiac disease involves two stages.  The first stage involves a simple blood test that looks for antibodies that are pretty specific to celiac disease. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that attacks the lining of the small bowel which produces antibodies that can be detected in the blood with tests specifically designed for this purpose. There are a number of these tests that can be run. Some are more specific for celiac disease and thus more reliable than others. The two most common antibody tests ordered by physicians when diagnosing celiac disease are the "total IGA" and the "tTG-IGA" test. At least these two should always be ordered. Here is a an article outlining the subject matter of celiac antibody tests:  If the tTG-IGA levels are 10x normal then it is becoming common practice in some countries to grant a celiac diagnosis on the bloodwork alone. The second stage involves an endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to look for the damage to the small bowel lining typically caused by celiac disease's inflammatory process over time. This is usually done in response to one or more positives from the blood antibody testing and constitutes confirmation of the antibody testing to eliminate the possibility of false positives. 
    • Izelle
      Hi there, Please can you tell me exactly how this disease is diagnosed? I am also from South Africa Regards Izelle
    • Waterdance
      Thank you for saying that. That doctor diagnosed me with IBS with no follow-up so the relationship is already concluded. If I pursue diagnosis further I'll request someone else. 
    • Rejoicephd
      Hey everyone. Thanks again for your suggestions. I wanted to give an update and ask for some follow-up suggestions from you all.  So I did go through all of my food items and stopped eating things that were “gluten free” and switched over to the “certified gluten free” ones (the ones with the g symbol). I also stayed away from restaurants except once and there I ordered something raw vegan and gluten free hoping for the best. I also stayed away from oats and soy and dairy. I've also been increasing my vitamin B complex. I've been doing this for about 12 days and while I know that's not that long, I'm still getting sick. Sometimes having diarrhea. Sometimes getting headaches and having necklaces. Sometimes waking up feeling horrible brain fog. I did go to my GI doc and they did a blood test and found my TtG-IgA was in the negative range (and a lower number than I'd had before). I also had normal levels of CRP. My stool showed no elevation of calprotectin and no pathogens. My GI doc said the symptoms could be related to a gluten exposure or to IBS. I'm keeping a food diary to see if I can narrow down whats going on. I know I have good days and bad days and Im trying to isolate what makes a good day versus a bad day. Generally so far it looks like if it eat something super cautious like raw vegetables that I chopped myself into a salad and almonds, im fine but if I eat something more complex including, say, chicken and rice (even if packaged and certified gluten free or made by me with gluten free ingredients), it may not go so well. I may end up with either a headache, neck tension, brain fog, and/or diarrhea that day or the morning after. Any other thoughts or suggestions? I am planning to start tracking my foods again but I wanted to do it in more detail this time (maybe down to the ingredient level) so are there any common ingredients that celiacs have issues with that you all know of that I should track? I've got dairy, oats, soy, eggs, corn, peas, lentils on my “watch list”. Other things I should add? I'm hoping if I track for another two weeks I can maybe pin down some sensitivities. Appreciate the help and tips. Thank you so much!!
×
×
  • Create New...