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Rice Problems?


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rideat0psi Newbie

Rice gives me gas and the big "D"and joint pain.Anybody else?Anymore info on this would helpful.


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Lisa Mentor
Rice gives me gas and the big "D"and joint pain.Anybody else?Anymore info on this would helpful.

Rices (unseasoned) should not be gluten problem.

rideat0psi Newbie

I have tried minute rice(gluten free,called them),slow cooked white and brown,P F Chang's white and brown rice,bread with rice flour in it (all gluten free) gets me.Everybody out,one opening,no waiting,Then joint pain,fighting sleep.Anyone else?

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Rice gives me gas and the big "D"and joint pain.Anybody else?Anymore info on this would helpful.

It makes me feel funny and puts me to sleep. I can't eat it but it's not a gluten thing. This always surprises people because everyone thinks rice is the ultimate hypoallergenic food and it's impossible to be allergic to it. It's just not true. The only grain I've successfully eaten without any problems (so far) is sorghum.

tarnalberry Community Regular

Rice is gluten free - so it's not a gluten problem.

But anything with a protein can cause an allergic reaction or intolerance, and rice is no exception.

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lizard00 Enthusiast
Rice gives me gas and the big "D"and joint pain.Anybody else?Anymore info on this would helpful.

I agree with everyone else. Plain rice is biologically gluten free.

I don't know how long you've been gluten-free, but grains are pretty tricky to digest with a compromised digestive tract. Could be that you need to allow your body to heal before you try a lot of rice. I've been gluten-free for a little over a year now, and I can eat rice, but I can't overdo it.

caek-is-a-lie Explorer
I don't know how long you've been gluten-free, but grains are pretty tricky to digest with a compromised digestive tract.

My rice reaction happens within 5 minutes of eating it. Puts me right to sleep. It's like some reaction happens in my mouth as I'm chewing. More like a 'real' food allergy (what IS real, anyway? lol) All of my food sensitivities are this way except for gluten. My gluten reaction is like the typical Celiac thing. Maybe I could eat rice if I didn't have to chew it and it just went straight to the digestive tract. I miss rice a lot, like everything else. It's so yummy. Especially with melted butter or in tuna casserole. [/drool]


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rideat0psi Newbie

I have been trying to stay gluten free for 3 years.I have not had skin test or blood work.My mother did and she has celiac.When she first told me all I had do.I said it's easy to stay away from gluten.Boy I was wrong!Back to the rice.Maybe I just ate to much at once,but it was just like had been glutened.

AliB Enthusiast

So many think that as long as you are not eating gluten you will be ok.

It doesn't work like that. Although some may manage to get by with just gluten removed, for many of us it is far more complex than just that.

The original understanding of Celiac was that it was down to an inability to digest carbohydrates in general, and for many that is certainly the problem. Grains and starches often, for those people, cause major health issues and any or even all of them can be problematic. gluten-free foods are VERY carbohydrate-dense and can often for many actually make things worse.

So many factors are involved. What kind of damage has been done to the gut. Where the damage is. Whether it has caused 'Leaky Gut' and where the Leaky Gut damage is. What kind of bacteria, yeasts or parasites may be triggering reactions.

You can pretty much guarantee, no, I would go so far as to say that you CAN guarantee that EVERY person who has 'auto-immune' type health issues, and particularly digestive ones, has some kind of gut dysbiosis.

Whether it is yeasts, like Candida, or other rogue microbes or parasites, they will be dealing with unbalanced gut flora. The toxins these bugs throw out can affect any area of the body - Candida apparently can give out over 70 different known toxins depending on what it is feeding and the reaction can occur almost immediately.

The pathogens LOVE carbs, particularly undigested ones that our poorly guts are so good at providing them with. Feed them and it is no surprise if you get some kind of reaction.

That is why I, and many others, are following the Specific Carb Diet, because it retains the good carbs in most fruit and veg but cuts out the long-chain carbs in grains and starches (including rice) that feed the little beggars and contribute to the gut damage. When we cut out the gluten-based carbs, they just transfer and adapt to a different food source. It could be corn, it could be soy, it could be, as you have discovered, rice.

We cut out one type, then soon after we have to cut out another, then another, and so it goes on. The SCD just cuts to the chase and removes them all together, cutting off their food source completely and it encourages the 'reflorestation' of the gut with good 24-hour cultured home-made yogurt and/or probiotics (the advantage with the yogurt is it gets the good guys into the gut from the mouth right down).

It claws back control from these beasties and helps the gut, and the body to heal. It is not always a fast process, depending on the damage, but even slow progress is better than no progress, and most of us have had a positive result after just a few weeks on the diet, sometimes after years of health problems.

There is an SCD thread on this section if you want to know more.

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Of all grains (including those containing gluten) rice is the one that causes me the most problems. Both brown and white rice will bring on palipitations, anxiety and other symptoms. If I eat rice before bed I will have difficulty falling asleep...then I'll wake up repeatedly through the night (its more like I'm jolted awake). I havent had that problem with other grains.

I can eat small amounts of rice.....but not a big bowlful.

rideat0psi Newbie

Thank you for your help and info.

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