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Which Test Iga Or Igg Is Better


clnewberry1

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I believe my son is gluten intolerant or maybe dairy intolerant. I have tried to get gluten and dairy out of his diet to do an elimination but my husband refuses to listen to me.

Without a test he just won't accept this.

I can do a IgG ELISA test that will also test for other foods or I can do the IgA stool test which is basically gluten, soy, eggs, milk, yeast.

Which one is more accurate? Which one will doctors accept?

My son has dermatitis on his face, chronic diarrhea which the pediatrician calls toddlers diarrhea, he now has his second yeast infection on his penis. Every fiber of my being is telling me this is a food allergy.

I had IgG ELISA testing - which came back positive for wheat, rye, mushrooms, milk, and yeast. The doctor who recommended this test for me my husband thinks is a quack. I went to an allergist who sent home a letter to my home which stated that IgG and IgA testing has no scientific validiadly. So to be completely honest with you I am not sure if my husband will accept if he tests positive on these tests either. I know he won't accept my tests. I tested negative for Celiac antibodies and I had a biopsy today (I know will be negative I have been gluten free since Dec) The doctor was like I practice "evidence based medicine" and these tests are very sensative so you probably don't have Celiac.

Anyway what are the experiences here - other than an elimination. I can't seem to do that with any support.

Thanks,

Crystal


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Is having the Celiac panel run an option?

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I agree with the previous poster, a complete celiac panel should be run which will include a total IGA and the newest celiac screening test the TtG. You should go back on gluten for at least 3 months to make sure that the tests are accurate. Even on a full gluten diet there is a risk of a false negative, especially with children.

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The pediatrician said that they would run a blood test if my blood test and biopsy came out positive for Celiac.

My blood work and I don't know which test was done came back negative, and my biopsy in 2004 was negative. I just had another biopsy done on Friday but since I have been gluten free I don't think it will be positive. My IgG ELISA test came back positive for wheat and rye. I was thinking about the stool testing for him because a blood draw on a 3 year old would be tramatic. If a stool test is more sensative which is according to Dr. Fine's website I would rather avoid a blood draw. However I have no idea if this test is even reliable - my doctor had never heard of it. She is a Natropath and often does other testing Western Medical doctors don't do.

Anyway I am just so frustrated. I have one child with chronic constipation and another one with diareha. I am just worried.

Thanks for the posts.

Crystal

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The pediatrician said that they would run a blood test if my blood test and biopsy came out positive for Celiac.

My blood work and I don't know which test was done came back negative, and my biopsy in 2004 was negative. I just had another biopsy done on Friday but since I have been gluten free I don't think it will be positive. My IgG ELISA test came back positive for wheat and rye. I was thinking about the stool testing for him because a blood draw on a 3 year old would be tramatic. If a stool test is more sensative which is according to Dr. Fine's website I would rather avoid a blood draw. However I have no idea if this test is even reliable - my doctor had never heard of it. She is a Natropath and often does other testing Western Medical doctors don't do.

Anyway I am just so frustrated. I have one child with chronic constipation and another one with diareha. I am just worried.

Thanks for the posts.

Crystal

Crystal,

I am so sorry that you're having so much trouble.

The trouble with Enterolab is that Dr. Fine's research has not been published. Because of this, there are few doctors who know about his testing and even fewer who consider it to be a valid method of testing. The validity of these tests has been questioned time and time again on this forum. You will get many different opinions.

The one thing you need to understand is that Enterolab cannot diagnose Celiac. They claim to be able to detect active dietary gluten sensitivity in the stool, but they themselves state they cannot diagnose Celiac.

If you want my honest opinion, I wouldn't get Enterolab testing done on your children until you have completely ruled out Celiac, even if that means getting a blood test and/or biopsy done. Your children obviously have symptoms and your pediatrician should be willing to test even if yours come out negative. Take celiacmommy for example on this forum, she has a child with Celiac and neither her or her husband have it. This is possible. If you have to, demand your pediatrician to test.

The other problem with Enterolab is that down the road you may start questioning their validity, and wonder if your children really do have Celiac. At that point, testing would be impossible because they would have been gluten free for so long the tests won't be valid.

If you need to know if they're Celiac, I would highly suggest getting the bloodwork and/or biopsy done on them. And this is coming from someone who used Enterolab.

If all else fails and you still suspect gluten is the culprit, there's nothing stopping you from putting your entire family on a strict gluten-free diet, even if your husband objects, and see what happens. This is about the health of you and your children, not about whether he gets to eat bread or not.

In any case, I hope this forum helps you; it's helped me in the worst of times.

Good luck :)

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