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What Is Candida In The Mouth Besides Thrush?


Christina98

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I have recently been told that I have a gluten and casein sensitivity.I have not changed anything yet......because I want a second opinion.First time I went through Enterolabs (3 weeks ago) and I will be going under the care of a MD-that is also a naturopath and deals with candida,gluten and other stuff.I want him to see moe before I go messing around (going gluten free and stuff) I dont want anything to interfere with what he maybe can tell me.

Anyhow I all of a sudden got a canker sore on my gums and below it another area of my gums are swollem(a small area) It hurts bad.I have NEVER had a canker sore and have Not been well my whole life,with No canker sores ever.I see post on here about candida causing an infection in the mouth, and I have seen photos of thrush (never had it) but Wanted to know if canker sores is the samething as an infection?

I mean is this another sign of what people talk about,an infection in the mouth from candida?I appreciate feedback :)


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ravenwoodglass Mentor

It is not uncommon for celiacs to get mouth ulcers and other oral issues. I don't know about whether they would be associated with candida.

Christina98 Explorer
It is not uncommon for celiacs to get mouth ulcers and other oral issues. I don't know about whether they would be associated with candida.

Thanks for the reply.

I have heard that celiacs get these mouth issues....Im just going crazy though cause I see other people on here post that they get infections in the mouth with candida.It seems as though every symptom is similiar to every disease or diagnosis.

trents Grand Master

Canker sores are actually caused by one of the herpes viruses.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
Canker sores are actually caused by one of the herpes viruses.

Actually they are not. See the last line on this.

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Canker Sore Causes

No one knows what causes canker sores. The vast majority of people who develop canker sores do not have another problem as the cause.

The disease is suspected to result from a reaction of the immune system.

Additional causative factors may include the following:

bacterial infections

hormonal disorders

stress

trauma

heredity

drugs (including anti-inflammatory drugs, such as ibuprofen, and beta-blockers, such as atenolol)

food allergies or sensitivities (chocolate, tomatoes, nuts, and acidic foods such as pineapple)

toothpastes containing sodium lauryl sulfate

deficiencies of iron, folic acid, or vitamin B12

Some studies have suggested an association with Helicobacter pylori, the same bacteria that cause peptic ulcers.

Recurrent canker sores have been associated with inflammatory bowel diseases, such as Crohn disease and ulcerative colitis. In these cases, the development of canker sores may signal a flare-up of the bowel disease.

Celiac, or abdominal, sprue, a disease of the intestines caused by sensitivity to gluten, causes malabsorption and is associated with development of canker sores. Gluten refers to a group of proteins found in wheat, barley, and rye.

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Unfortunately, I feel like I'm an expert on this topic -- not because I have all research or medical knowledge, but because I have alot of firsthand experience.

A few things could be going on with the oral Candida:

1. sore throat

2. a white layer on film on the tongue or other areas of the mouth

3. open ulcer

4. red bumps (i have these on the back of the tongue but they do not hurt; they are just raised)

5. gum irritation or other irritations

I'm sure there are more symptoms, but those are the ones I know of and I've experienced a few of those. Candida and gluten intolerances definitely go hand-in-hand, especially when it comes to oral health. Just think about it: everything passes through the mouth first and foremost. It gets affected every time you eat.

julirama723 Contributor

Let's not forget angular chelitis, those unsightly, painful cracks on the outside corner of the mouth that NEVER want to go away. UGH. :(


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I have recently been told that I have a gluten and casein sensitivity.I have not changed anything yet......because I want a second opinion.First time I went through Enterolabs (3 weeks ago) and I will be going under the care of a MD-that is also a naturopath and deals with candida,gluten and other stuff.I want him to see moe before I go messing around (going gluten free and stuff) I dont want anything to interfere with what he maybe can tell me.

Anyhow I all of a sudden got a canker sore on my gums and below it another area of my gums are swollem(a small area) It hurts bad.I have NEVER had a canker sore and have Not been well my whole life,with No canker sores ever.I see post on here about candida causing an infection in the mouth, and I have seen photos of thrush (never had it) but Wanted to know if canker sores is the samething as an infection?

I mean is this another sign of what people talk about,an infection in the mouth from candida?I appreciate feedback :)

This is probably another clue that you are, indeed, gluten sensitive or have full blown Celiac. I had a thrush problem and canker sores for years before being diagnosed with Celiac Disease. About a month after going gluten-free, both problems disappeared, never to return and it's been 4 years for me. It will also cause swollen gums and all sorts of problems.

Candida and Celiac can cause the exact same symptoms in people, so it can make for a lot of mis-diagnosis. It is also common to have both, especially with untreated Celiac/GS. You may want to consider a full Celiac panel first off. Then, depending on what that shows, a dietary trial. Good luck!

ravenwoodglass Mentor
Let's not forget angular chelitis, those unsightly, painful cracks on the outside corner of the mouth that NEVER want to go away. UGH. :(

If you are still having issues with those make sure you are taking a sublingual B12 along with a good multi that also has the B's. Those guys really hurt and are often associated with a B defiecency.

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