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Digestive Prob Other Than celiac disease


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debmidge Rising Star

What digestive disease other than celiac would create a digestive problem of where

you'd see pieces of what you ate (for example, eat and chew cooked carrot very well

and see pieces of carrot in stool, or an extened release pill you swallowed)? What health condition other than celiac would cause this problem?


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My main thought would be that you're missing some kind of enzyme(s).

There are lots of other digestive disorders besides celiac disease though... Chron's, various types of colitis, diverticulitis, giardia, Whipple's disease, IBS... I don't know how many of these (if any) would cause you to have undigested chunks of food in your stool. If you figure it out, let us know!

One other quick thought... not having enough stomach acid.

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Deb, I don't have an answer for you, but this might render some clues...

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trents Grand Master

Two questions: 1. Does the problem you describe pertain to your husband (whose journey to celiac disease dx you describe in detail at the bottom of your post)? I assume it does but you never really say that. And 2. How long does it take for what he eats to show up in his stool, i.e., what is the turn around time? Normal digestive turn around time is about 24 hours. With execssive intestinal motility it would be much shorter and would account for incomplete digestion.

I don't think it's necessarily abnormal for some things we eat to show up in our stool; things like whole kernel corn and chunks of raw carrot for example. That's the definition of "roughage".

debmidge Rising Star
Two questions: 1. Does the problem you describe pertain to your husband (whose journey to celiac disease dx you describe in detail at the bottom of your post)? I assume it does but you never really say that. And 2. How long does it take for what he eats to show up in his stool, i.e., what is the turn around time? Normal digestive turn around time is about 24 hours. With execssive intestinal motility it would be much shorter and would account for incomplete digestion.

I don't think it's necessarily abnormal for some things we eat to show up in our stool; things like whole kernel corn and chunks of raw carrot for example. That's the definition of "roughage".

Yes, it's my husband. He just passed an almost whole Requp XL pill in his stool and he says

he also passes other foods whole, like black olive bits....he has pretty normal turn around time 24 hrs. He passed overcooked carrot too. Just don't know what to make of this; he's always been like this since having digestive problems.

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Yes, it's my husband. He just passed an almost whole Requp XL pill in his stool and he says

he also passes other foods whole, like black olive bits....he has pretty normal turn around time 24 hrs. He passed overcooked carrot too. Just don't know what to make of this; he's always been like this since having digestive problems.

Exttended release tabs have a special coating on the tablet to slow down the release of the drug into the system. Did you get the monograph that comes with the drug? For some drugs the monograph will clearly state that you may see what appears to be the pill in the stool but what is seen is actually the capsule or coating that has not been digested. In that case it is a normal thing to see. Does your DH have Parkinsons also? I know this drug is used for Parkinsons disease so I hope that is not the case. It is sometimes given for RLS also if that is what he is being given it for is there any chance he may be getting CC'd somewhere? In even really tiny amounts? RLS can be a problem for those of us that have neuro effects and judging only by my own experience it takes a very, very small amount of gluten for the neuro effects to reappear. If this is a new med for symptoms that have appeared recently and he is on a number of other meds also look at the other meds and see if perhaps one of the other meds is causing the RLS.

It is not uncommon for certain foods to be visible in the stool even in folks with normal digestion. Does he have D or any other issues that have cropped up like an increased frequency in movements or pain? He could be failing to digest optimally and a digestive enzyme may help but with all his other issues he should bring this to the attention of his doctor.

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i used to see a lot more undigested food until I made sure EVERYTHING was gluten free. Have you checked all his vitamins? Half of mine had gluten and I had no idea. They have to say gluten free.

I used to see corn and some pills in my stools, but what also helped besides making certain I was getting NO gluten, was a full digestive pack that covers it all IMO.

After much research I have found this to be most helpful.

Instead of giving a link, if you do a google search and copy and paste this

products Healthy Digestion Total 5 STAR Stomach Pack this is sold by simpledefeat and has made such a huge difference.


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