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Could I Just Be Monosodium Glutamate Intolerance ( As I Hope)

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I now know that I'm monosodium glutamte intolerance. After remembering recent history, and observing myself... monosodium glutamate really kicked in my symtoms. The lump on the back of my head seem to have swell, I got headaches in the area of the lump, felt drowsyness etc..... and notice all of this happen during a few hours later ( sometimes minutes) consuming monosodium glutamate. I also feel as if I'm celiac also ( blood test came back negative, though I had went on a two week diet before test... consuming wheat only 3 times for testing). My hairtexture seems to be improving etc.... my health seems to be getting better avoding monosodium glutamate and gluten. I know it's been said that many celiacs are msg intolerance also.... so it pushes me even more to the thought that I may be celiac. How should I go about knowing whether I'm msg and gluten intolerance, or just one? Ofcourse, I'm hoping it's just msg intolerance... though I think it's both.

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I now know that I'm monosodium glutamte intolerance. After remembering recent history, and observing myself... monosodium glutamate really kicked in my symtoms. The lump on the back of my head seem to have swell, I got headaches in the area of the lump, felt drowsyness etc..... and notice all of this happen during a few hours later ( sometimes minutes) consuming monosodium glutamate. I also feel as if I'm celiac also ( blood test came back negative, though I had went on a two week diet before test... consuming wheat only 3 times for testing). My hairtexture seems to be improving etc.... my health seems to be getting better avoding monosodium glutamate and gluten. I know it's been said that many celiacs are msg intolerance also.... so it pushes me even more to the thought that I may be celiac. How should I go about knowing whether I'm msg and gluten intolerance, or just one? Ofcourse, I'm hoping it's just msg intolerance... though I think it's both.

I really don't know anything about MSG intolerance, and I don't know how severe the symptoms can be.

As far as I know, MSG is mostly gluten-free in the US and Canada, but I could be wrong. It could definitely be an additional intolerance you may have in addition to gluten intolerance.

To do an elimination diet, you need to eliminate 1 thing at a time so you know which is causing your problems. Why not just go MSG free at first for atleast a month, and see what happens. If you're still having problems, then go gluten free for a month. It's easier to pinpoint it this way, but you need to absolutely avoid it, which means no eating out and eating very simple foods, and eliminating any cross contamination issues.

Sorry it wasn't much help, but I hope you feel better soon :)

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I really don't know anything about MSG intolerance, and I don't know how severe the symptoms can be.

As far as I know, MSG is mostly gluten-free in the US and Canada, but I could be wrong. It could definitely be an additional intolerance you may have in addition to gluten intolerance.

To do an elimination diet, you need to eliminate 1 thing at a time so you know which is causing your problems. Why not just go MSG free at first for atleast a month, and see what happens. If you're still having problems, then go gluten free for a month. It's easier to pinpoint it this way, but you need to absolutely avoid it, which means no eating out and eating very simple foods, and eliminating any cross contamination issues.

Sorry it wasn't much help, but I hope you feel better soon :)

Already started a gluten free diet ( consuming wheat about 3-5 times during so), and feel healthier, and seeing improvements in symptoms. Though I did notice recently, when I eat something with msg I sorta experience a kick in my symptoms.

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I seem to report my symptom reactions when eating things with monosodium glutamate.... though a day free of monosodium glutamate and my symptoms are extremly low, or not present at all. So I recently started to avoid monosodium glutamate after noticing I would experience symptoms when eating things with it. Though now I'm questioning can I just be celiac free, and monosodium glutamate intolerance? When reporting reactions with things I've tested ( that has wheat), it may have contained monosodium glutamate... though unable to find the product packages that gave me high allergic reactions. I'm also well introduced that many celiacs ( as I've read) are monosodium glutamate intolerance... which makes me question even more if I'm also gluton intolerance. How should I go about deciding between whether I'm gluten and monosodium glutamate intolerance... or if I'm just msg intolerance ( as I would hope).

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I'm debating on whether I'm just monosodium glutamate intolerance, or also likely gluten intolerance as well. I did get a blood test and my doctor called in with the results, saying everything tested was negative and I'm not celiac. Though I also should mention I was on a 2-3 week diet ( gluten free, within 2-3 weeks I only consumed gluten 3-5 times). I do remember experiencing symptoms with most, while others appeared to be minor. How likely could these results be false, due to my gluten free diet?

I do notice everytime I eat something with monosodium glutamate, I experience symptoms ( such as lump on back of head may swell, etc...). Though recently ( a few days ago) when I ate things consuming wheat but no monosodium glutamate I did not experience symptoms that I can recall. I happen not to experience symptoms from eating wheat shortly after as I do with monosodium glutamate ( mainly chips I guess). Since eliminating monosodium glutamate my health seems like it's getting even better, and my rash appears to be going away and other symptoms/ skin conditions ( though I'm also taking vitamins). I have heard of many people who have been misdiagonose as being celiac when it was only monosodium glutamate.

I'm wondering if my symptoms seem to have been improving some when I was not eating things with gluten/ wheat since I also eliminated a large intake of monosodium glutamate?

Are most celiacs intolerance to monosodium glutamate?

Most who are celiac experience allergic like symptoms when intaking wheat/ gluten?

Being allergic to monosodium glutamate basically limits you away from many things that contain wheat, and almost the same diagnoses?

(Any other information you think I woudl like to know base off my question, I'm interested)

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An MSG intolerance is not that uncommon, among celiacs and non celiacs. That's why many restaurants advertise when they're MSG free... My mom doesn't have celiac, but MSG gives her terrible headaches.

A very easy way to test yourself would be to try one thing without the other for a couple of days. So, MSG while gluten-free, then eat gluten while MSG free. Keep a diary and keep track of what you find. Try each for a week if you can, that way you get a clearer picture. Sometimes reactions are not immediate, so it's important not to try one scenario one day, and the other one the next. Give yourself some time to truly test out whether you'll react or not.

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Well I've been seeing slow improvements when staying away from gluten, though when I decided to eliminate monosodium glutamate from my diet, I started to see more vast improvements, with my rash almost gone.... I question could this part of my long gluten free diet. Which I did consume gluten within those weeks, and more recently a day or two ago. I can really point out my symptoms when I eat something that says msg with ingrediants.... mainly chips. I also hear msg is in many foods etc.... If it's all just msg then why did I see slow improvements in symptoms?

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Hi-

Can you please let me know how you are doing now? I am going through the same issue- though I am 100% sure about MSG- it makes me really sick- I also would get a bump on my head, hives, digestive problems within a couple hours of eating something with MSG or its derivatives.

Did you worsen when eating gluten?

Hope you are better now!

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