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- cristiana replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders10Severe severe mouth pain
Hi @Charlie1946 I am so sorry to hear you are suffering with this problem. Just a few other thoughts. I had debilitating anxiety prior to my diagnosis. I was never admitted to a hospital but thankfully had a lot of support from friends and family, and found a couple of publications contained really helpful advice: for depression, The Depression... -
- trents replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders10Severe severe mouth pain
@Charlie1946, as an alternative to milk-based protein shakes, let me suggest whey protein. Whey and casein are the two main proteins found in milk but whey doesn't cause issues like casein can for celiacs. Concerning your question about celiac safe mental health facilities, unfortunately, healthcare facilities in general do not have good reputations... -
- Charlie1946 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders10Severe severe mouth pain
@knitty kitty are you kidding? I had no idea about the casein!! No one ever mentioned that to me at all!! I basically live off that milk! I have also wondered if I have Sjorgen's , but I haven't been to the doctor yet. Can you get the TTFD over the counter? I do have dysphasia and I have lysine I just haven't been good about taking it. I am so glad I found... -
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Severe severe mouth pain
@trents, Hi, thank you for the reply, I used to be pretty good at taking my vitamins and supplements, because I also have PCOS, I have Barrett's esophagus, it's just too expensive to have it stretched all the time, and I also get kinda panicked when trying to swallow pills because of getting choked a lot before. I think maybe the thrush made it worse, I... -
- knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders10Severe severe mouth pain
Oh, my dear! Get off that Fairlife chocolate protein shake! That's got milk in it! Egads! Some people with Celiac disease react to the protein Casein in dairy the same as to gluten with the inflammation and antibodies and all. Reacting to Casein is not the same as lactose intolerance. Damaged villi are incapable of producing lactAse, the enzyme...
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Hi @Charlie1946 I am so sorry to hear you are suffering with this problem. Just a few other thoughts. I had debilitating anxiety prior to my diagnosis. I was never admitted to a hospital but thankfully had a lot of support from friends and family, and found a couple of publications contained really helpful advice: for depression, The Depression Cure: The Six-Step Programme to Beat Depression Without Drugs by Dr Steve Llardi, and for debilitating anxiety, At Last A Life by Paul David. Both can be ordered online, there is also a website for the latter. If you are deficient in or have low iron or B12 this can cause or worsen mental health issues. I am sure my own issues were caused by long-term deficiencies. If you can get your blood tested, it would be useful. In the case of iron, make sure you only supplement if you have a deficiency, and levels can be monitored, as too much iron can be dangerous. If you have burning mouth issues, very bad TMJ or neuralgia, I understand the pain can be managed by the use of a certain class of medication like amitriptyline, which is also used to treat depression. But there again, it is possible with the correct diet and supplementation these issues might improve? I do hope that you find relief soon. Cristiana -
@Charlie1946, as an alternative to milk-based protein shakes, let me suggest whey protein. Whey and casein are the two main proteins found in milk but whey doesn't cause issues like casein can for celiacs. Concerning your question about celiac safe mental health facilities, unfortunately, healthcare facilities in general do not have good reputations for being celiac safe. Most celiacs find that they need to depend on family members to advocate for them diligently or bring in food from the outside. Training of staff is inconsistent and there is the issue of turnover and also cross contamination.
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By Charlie1946 · Posted
@knitty kitty are you kidding? I had no idea about the casein!! No one ever mentioned that to me at all!! I basically live off that milk! I have also wondered if I have Sjorgen's , but I haven't been to the doctor yet. Can you get the TTFD over the counter? I do have dysphasia and I have lysine I just haven't been good about taking it. I am so glad I found this group and all of you with all this helpful information!! I thought I was going crazy!! I have sebaceous hyperplasia too- is that related to Celiac? OH , and I wanted to ask if there is a site where I could find information on mental health issues , with celiac safe facilities?? -
By Charlie1946 · Posted
@trents, Hi, thank you for the reply, I used to be pretty good at taking my vitamins and supplements, because I also have PCOS, I have Barrett's esophagus, it's just too expensive to have it stretched all the time, and I also get kinda panicked when trying to swallow pills because of getting choked a lot before. I think maybe the thrush made it worse, I just can't figure out why I can't get it to go away -
By knitty kitty · Posted
Oh, my dear! Get off that Fairlife chocolate protein shake! That's got milk in it! Egads! Some people with Celiac disease react to the protein Casein in dairy the same as to gluten with the inflammation and antibodies and all. Reacting to Casein is not the same as lactose intolerance. Damaged villi are incapable of producing lactAse, the enzyme that digests lactOse, the sugar in dairy. If the villi grow back, they can resume making lactase again. I react to casein and lactose both. I get sores in my mouth and coated tongue, and inflammation, my Dermatitis Herpetiformis flares up, I get cold sores or shingles, and TMJ pain, well, joint pain in general, and my brain health is really affected, depression and anxiety. So dairy is a really scary horror movie. I take Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide). These have anti-viral properties. I've had chicken pox/shingles, and I also harbor the cold sore herpes virus which traveled to one eye through a nerve. It's broken now. I had really bad nerve pain in my check at the time, then it turned into Bell's Palsy. Thiamine TTFD helped clear up the dysphagia I was also experiencing then. I took lots of Lysine to fight the herpes viruses as well. Between the Thiamine TTFD and the Lysine, and avoiding dairy, mine stays dormant for the most part. I also take a B Complex, and Magnesium Threonate to help the Thiamine TTFD work, Vitamin C, Vitamins A and D, and Zinc supplements to help Thiamine TTFD fight off those viruses. I have Sjogren's so I understand dry eye and mouth. I found including Omega Threes, healthy fats, improved my problem. You know how oil floats on top of water? That's going on in our body, too. Flaxseed oil supplements, and flaxseed oil to use on food is one way I increased my Omega Threes. Choline and sunflower seed oil supplements are other choices I've tried. Eat real food! Eat fresh vegetables and fruit! I had cooked stew in a crockpot until super mushy so I could chew and swallow it without lots of pain. I got a bag of mandarin oranges, Cuties, whatever they're called now. They're not too acidic. Gluten free crackers don't have any nutritional value, no vitamins. I followed the low histamine version of the Autoimmune Protocol Diet. The book The Paleo Approach by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne has been most helpful. She's a Celiac herself, and the diet has been shown to improve intestinal health. I have seen liquid vitamins on line. Thiamine TTFD comes in a capsule, but tastes really strongly of garlic, so be prepared if your Gatorade tastes funny.
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