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Extreme Bleeding Gums

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This is my first post so please forgive me if this doesn't make sense. I'm at my wits end with trying to figure out what is going on with my body. A year ago this past September I went to my regular GP with cronic constipation. I asked if it could be related to food, no was the answer. It was recommended that I take Miralax every night( is this gluten free). On my own I contacted a lab that does food testing with blood samples. Tests came back with many, many allergies. Everything from gluten, dairy, etc. About 5 months ago my gums started bleeding at the slightest pressure. Went to my dentist, no cavities or anything going on. He recommended a specialist. Oral specialist did a biopsy of my upper gums, which are so sore and inflammed. Test came back as a contact irritant. The oral doctor doesn't think this is correct and is sure I have a auto immune disease. She wants to do another biopsy. I'm thinking this isn't going to happen. I went to another GP and she did 28 more blood tests. I don't show as having Celiac, but when I eat anything with gluten I itch all over, leg cramps and other symptoms. Does anyone else have the bleeding gum problem? Can it be caused by gluten? We live in a very small town in the middle of Oregon and I just can't seem to find a doctor that can advise me.

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ktnhsv Newbie
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Sounds like an allergic reaction of some sort? Or gum disease? Have you tried using a natural toothpaste like "Tom's of Maine"?

PlantLover Newbie
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Sounds like an allergic reaction of some sort? Or gum disease? Have you tried using a natural toothpaste like "Tom's of Maine"?

I had a biopsy of my gums done 2 months ago. Oregon Health Sciences says contact irritant. One month ago I started using Tom's toothpaste without the foaming ingredient. Still no difference. I have eliminated so many foods that, lost 40 pounds, still they are inflammed. I have an appointment with a specialist tomorrow. This will make number 5 for doctors. I'm afraid I'm going to lose my teeth if I can't get this figured out soon.

GFinDC Veteran
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I used to have gum problems all the time before going gluten-free. Brushing, flossing gurgling etc didn't fix it either. My hayfever symptoms were pretty bad also. That all cleared up though after gluten-free. I spend a lot less time and effort on my teeth now and they are in much better shape.

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I used to have gum problems all the time before going gluten-free. Brushing, flossing gurgling etc didn't fix it either. My hayfever symptoms were pretty bad also. That all cleared up though after gluten-free. I spend a lot less time and effort on my teeth now and they are in much better shape.

I will post after I hear from the doctor tomorrow. Of course he will probably want to do more tests and I have already had 32 blood tests.

ktnhsv Newbie
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You poor thing, I will be thinking of you tommorrow, I hope the doctor can help you!

Eric-C Enthusiast
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I did not have massive bleeding gums...but there would be a bit of blood after brushing I'd say 60 percent of the time.

Since going gluten-free never. I don't think its anywhere near as severe as what you had but it was another interesting problem that went away.

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I had the same thing Eric_C had - my gums bled some of the time, but not in excess. It was irritating and somewhat worrisome for me - but it got much better after being gluten free for some time.

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Went to the doctor yesterday. He is pretty sure the contact irritant is gluten. He said he has never seen it this severe. I'm going to be extra careful of everything that goes in my mouth. Amazing at everything that has gluten in it. Since I'm new at this it is really hard to realize how many products have gluten.

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Sometimes taking Vitamin C will help bleeding gums.

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