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Indigestion/Gastritis Not Improving

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jasonD2 Experienced
jasonD2
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My recent endoscopy showed mild duodenitis. I was taking supplements for candida back in September and they started to cause indigstion, so i stopped. well it never went away and now im finding it impossible to eat. i am drinking chamomile, slippery elm and marshmallow root tea and taking licorice lozenges before meals and its still not improving. some days are better than others but its just not going away. ive been eating less and am loosing even more weight now. i should be at 155 lbs and am at 140. is there anything that can be done to fix this? I can't live like this..im turning into skin and bones.

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lynnelise Apprentice
lynnelise
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When I was diagnosed with gastritis and duodenitis the doctor gave me a Rx for Carafate. After a couple of weeks I was able to eat pain free!

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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I would suggest dropping all the 'remedies' you are taking. Then after a few days add them back one at a time. Have you tried Pepto Bismal or has your GI reccommended anything? If you haven't mentioned this to the doctor who did the endo you should do so.

jasonD2 Experienced
jasonD2
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Did it cure it or just relieve the symptoms?

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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Did it cure it or just relieve the symptoms?

For me the pepto cured the problem, I only needed to take it for about a week or two. I took it at the slightest hint of pain after the first time I took it, right after the endo. The only times I have taken it since is the few times I have been glutened or soyed.

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Tom Riggins Newbie
Tom Riggins
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I had duodenitis. Twenty years ago a doctor prescribed Carafate for me. Great stuff and basically inert but when I've asked other doctors over the years to prescribe it they have acted like it was the last thing they would have thought of. I took it about ten minutes before meals.

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Chrisco Apprentice
Chrisco
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My recent endoscopy showed mild duodenitis. I was taking supplements for candida back in September and they started to cause indigstion, so i stopped. well it never went away and now im finding it impossible to eat. i am drinking chamomile, slippery elm and marshmallow root tea and taking licorice lozenges before meals and its still not improving. some days are better than others but its just not going away. ive been eating less and am loosing even more weight now. i should be at 155 lbs and am at 140. is there anything that can be done to fix this? I can't live like this..im turning into skin and bones.

I have chronic gastritis and was given carafate however I didn't take it cause it was liquid form and I have trouble with taking liquid medicines. My doctor gave me phenergan for the nausea that was caused from the gastritis. This helps me eat. Usually after an hour after taking it I feel tons better and am able to eat and keep the food down.

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amypie Newbie
amypie
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I was sent to this forum after a google search about mild duodenitis. I had an endoscopy done 2 days ago and my discharge paperwork said I had hiatial hernia, gastritis and duodenitis. I went in for biopsy's on my stomach and intestine to look for an ulcer and check for celiac disease along with bacteria I may have. I was reading JasonD2's posts and it seems we have a few similiar problems. I have not been taking any of the supplements that were montioned here but I was told a year and a half ago I had lactose intolerence and I've been having problems with bloating, nausea, and a huge protruding stomach. I was diagnosed at 17 with IBS and at 23 with diverticulosis. I've also been diagnosed with depression. It seems like these "misdiagnosis'" come with a gluten/celiac intolerence. I was just wondering anyone's thoughts on this. I have been tested but won't get results for 2 weeks. I cut wheat and gluten out for a wwek, accidently had some and got sick. That happened twice. Then I read that it was important to not stop eating gluten before you are diagnosed because it can mees up the test results. I added it back in and didn't have as many problems. From what I read, if I did have Celiac I would be losing weight and I have been gaining and my stomach inflammation is not going away. Any thoughts???

mushroom Proficient
mushroom
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Hi amypie, and welcome.

There are so many myths that circulate about celiac disease, and one of these myths is that if you have not been losing weight you cannot be celiac. There are just as many overweight celiacs who cannot lose as underweight celiacs who cannot gain. I was one of the former, my sister one of the latter. We come in all shapes and sizes. :D

Well, no doubt if you have been reading you will have read about the bloating, nausea and distended abdomen. These are not urban myths. These are for real, although not for all. That is the confusing part about diagnosing celiac - there is such a range of symptoms, and if your symptoms don't fall within the particular doctor's experience he will say you can't have it. But you CAN. And while you are still eating gluten you would not expect your stomach inflammation to go away.

Lactose intolerance is one of the first signs because gluten destroys the part of the small intestine that produces the enzyme to digest lactose. IBS is not a diagnosis in and of itself - it is merely a description of a set of symptoms that doctors cannot pin a diagnosis on. Diverticulosis is a real condition which often accompanies other gastrrointestinal disorders from what I understand. Depression is a biggie - it is one of the main symptoms of the neurological form of gluten intolerance and so many have been on so many anti-depression meds before they are diagnosed.

If I were you I would expect my results to be positive. But even if you are not celiac, you have all the symptoms of gluten intolerance and should go on the gluten free diet anyway. If your doctor is not planning on doing any blood testing, you can start right now. Or you can wait and ask him to perform the celiac panel. Either way, I think you are a member of our exclusive little club :D Come on in!

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      The biopsy looks for damage to the mucosal lining of the small bowel from the inflammation caused by celiac disease when gluten is ingested. Once you remove gluten from the diet, inflammation subsides and the mucosal lining begins to heal. 
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