Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Specific Carbohydrate Diet?


PreOptMegs

Recommended Posts

PreOptMegs Explorer

I was just introduced to this diet yesterday by a member on this forum. Just wondering what some opinions of this are and any success/unsuccessful stories are from this, and how hard it is to stay on it!! Thanks


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • Replies 326
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Guest gfinnebraska

I have been doing the SCD for @ 7 weeks. It is VERY hard to stick to when you see temptations that are gluten-free all around you!!! :) BUT, the rewards are great as well. I feel SO much better already, and a bonus has been that I have lost 20 lbs. so far!! :) :) Soooo, it is up to you ~ the book suggests doing the diet for a year.

You have to ask yourself if you are willing to give up sugar, dairy, processed food, gluten-free carbs, etc. for a year!??!

Good luck and good health!!!!

shimma Apprentice

I have found the diet very time-consuming - I spend many hours prepping food. But I've been on it for three weeks and I'm willing to stick it out because I think that even if I don't feel 100% better at the end, at least it can't hurt. At this point I'm willing to try anything! I've been gluten-free for two years and I don't feel significantly better.

PreOptMegs Explorer

gfinnebraska-

how long did it take to begin losing weight? I gain weight with gluten intake, so I am not sure where to start on the diet. I just sort of jumped in it (I ordered the book- it ins't in yet...) and everything I have eaten has been "legal", but is there some sort of chronological sequence to the way things should be introduced? I am sick of being stuck at this weight, so I hope this diet begins to work soon!!

shimma Apprentice

The website Open Original Shared Link has a Food Preparation section that shows the order of introducing food. It is not really a timeline, but more of a guideline of how to build up from the basic diet. How long you stay at one stage or another depends on you and how you're feeling.

Guest gfinnebraska

Thank you Shimma ~ :)

I am also a gluten "gainer" ~ I started losing weight right away ~ I had diarrhea for the first two weeks, so at first the weight loss was just from "cleaning out." At least that is what I believe! Then I started to lose... a pound about every other day. :)

Hang in there... stick with the eating program, and you will lose too!! I am sure of it. :)

I also exercise. I either go for a walk (with the dog and hubby) or work out on my treadmill. That helps too. :)

PreOptMegs Explorer

Thanks for all of the responses. I am so excited because today I broke the weight plateau I was stuck on. I am finally having success with the SCD and I couldn't be happier!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



celiac3270 Collaborator

Terrific! :) Just remember that you cannot cheat at all on this diet if you want it to really work--similar to the gluten-free diet in that respect, I guess.

PreOptMegs Explorer

I just got the book, breaking the vicious cycle, and I am confused as to what I should eat in the beginning. I guess I have to cook all fruits and vegetables well, but which one's should I start out with? I have been eating lots of natural applesauce and really cooked carrots and broccoli and some cheddar cheese, but I don't know what other things I am allowed to eat in the beginning to try to ad some variety into my diet. I guess raisins and prunes are saved for later? Any help is greatly appreciated.

cynicaltomorrow Contributor

Check out www.pecanbread.com

There's a general food preparation guideline for adding foods back after the Intro.

Guest gfinnebraska

For the first two weeks I ate hamburger patties, eggs and drank fruit juice. After the diarrhea stopped, I added fruit, etc. Don't be surprised if everything runs through you for quite a while... I can only assume that is how you start the "cleaning out" process!! I kept wondering why the book kept saying, "When the D stops..." THEN I started having a lot of "D" and understood! Ha! Hang in there!!!

PreOptMegs Explorer

I don't have 'D', nor have I ever had it, so it is hard for me to judge when I should start to integrate more of anything in. This diet is known to help all kinds of intestional disorders, and if they don't have the 'D' either, I wonder how they know. Anyway, I sort of have to start over again with the intro diet. I realized that raisins, prunes, and shelled peanuts are for way later down the line. I don't know how to tell if a new introduced food "messes" me up or not because I don't get the 'D' and since all of this food is gluten free, it doesn't make me blow up like a balloon, which is how I usually know i've been "glutened".

Guest gfinnebraska

Hmmm... I don't know! I "rushed" the diet this past week, and had diarrhea again. I don't know how you know if you don't have any!!??!! That is a good question. Well, the book says to do the intro for approx. 2 weeks, doesn't it? I would just follow that time guideline and any other ones that are given by the author. I need to read through my book... again!... and see what needs to be added to my diet next. I guess that is all you can do too!! :)

cynicaltomorrow Contributor

The Intro is recommended for 2-5 days. This allows your body to start healing. Once you begin to introduce cooked fruits and veggies, you'll be able to tell how well you're dealing with them. Since you didn't do the Intro correct the first time, it would've been pretty tough to tell how the foods were affecting you. Expect to have some bloating and gas when you're first introducing cooked fruits and veggies, as well as raw fruits and veggies. Look for any pain, nausea, or D to help determine how well you're dealing with the new foods. I'm on about week 9 or 10 and I just introduced almond flour yesterday. I decided to work on getting to the raw fruits and veggies before introducing the flour or milk. It all depends on the person.

judy05 Apprentice

I just got the book this week and I also ordered the cookbook and almond flour. The cookbook has a lot of nice recipes but call for dry curd cottage cheese and homemade yogurt. At the present time I cannot do dairy(except for cheddar cheese). Has anyone tried substituting these ingredients or modifying the diet? Any help would be appreciated.If anyone is interested the cookbook can be ordered from www.lucyskitchenshop.com. You can also order the almond flour. The recipes sound very good. I don't have diarrhea so I guess I can jump right in. I do have other food intolerances besides wheat and dairy so I will have to work around them.

PreOptMegs Explorer

On the SCD, is jarred natural applesauce legal? I thought so at first, but now I am thinking not because of the no canned fruits thing. I had been eating a lot of it because I read a guideline that said applesauce and pearsauce should be the first things tried for fruit, but now I think they must mean homemade pear or applesauce.

PreOptMegs Explorer

Judy 05---

Where are you going to start and when are you going to introduce brick cheese into diet? I don't have 'D' either, so just wondering how you will treat it. Thanks.

judy05 Apprentice

I've been using cheddar cheese for over 6 months. It doesn't seem to bother me but other cheeses give me stomach pain. I guess I will follow the book for now.

This is all new for me. I am intolerant of egg whites, corn, and yeast. I also have to watch my carbs because of Diabetes, controlled by diet and exercise.

Guest gfinnebraska

I don't have a source for the dry curd cottage cheese either. I am going to try and buy the yogurt maker asap so I can at least use that. :) I have that cookbook, and the blueberry muffins in there with the almond flour are pretty good! I also made the ginger cookies. Yummy!! I had better stop... I am making myself hungry!!

PreOptMegs Explorer

I want to make some pecan cookies really badly.... I just need a little dessert break, but I am relatively new to the diet, so I don't know when to start integrating the "good" stuff in.

PreOptMegs Explorer

I had my first whole banana after 2 days on the intro diet. THings went well. No gas or any other flare ups, so I guess it wasn't too early for fruit?

Guest gfinnebraska

No, you should be fine. I think applesauce would be okay if you make sure you get the kind with NO added sugar, etc. I eat canned fruit ~ in its own juice. The book says that canned fruit is fine as long as there isn't any added sugar. I will double check my facts and post again. :)

  • 3 weeks later...
PreOptMegs Explorer

I am sort of frustrated with SCD. Everytime I try to integrate something new, I see signs that I shouldn't have tried it. I have been on this diet for a while and I am sick of eating carrots, green beans, and hamburger patties. Anyone else having problems integrating things? i am dying for strawberries!

shimma Apprentice

I can't add almonds to save my life! I keep trying, getting sick, waiting a while, and trying again. At least peanut butter seems to be ok, so I can make brownies and pancakes.

Is that really all you're eating? What foods are giving you issues? Does cooking them help?

PreOptMegs Explorer

I got a yogurt maker 2 weeks ago, so I started adding that, but everytime I try to add something, I get excessive gas and constant "gurgling" in my stomach that isn't ever there when I just eat carrots, ripe bananas, green beans, meat/eggs, or yogurt. Natural peanut butter doesn't give me any problems either. I have tried pineapple, strawberries, blueberries, raisins, prunes. I have read where I should de-seed fruit in the beginning, but it seems useless with strawberries!!!!!!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,335
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    johnfreirefr
    Newest Member
    johnfreirefr
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.