Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help Deciphering Results Please


Dace

Recommended Posts

Dace Rookie

I am new here, please forgive me if this type of question has been asked repeatedly!

Our history is long and complex, but the short version is that 5 yrs ago I had my then 11 yr old tested for food allergies, celiacs and a few other things as she was very thin and I was worried about malabsorption issues. She tested negative for celiacs ( I was told) but positive for the antibody (which was never explained and I was just happy to hear the Neg on celiacs. Now I have a 7 yo with constant belly aches, which are very clearly realted to the amount of wheat she consumes. In doing some research the anitbody thing popped up, so I ordered the older childs lab work and went thru it.

Gliadin Ab IgA: <3

Negative <11

Equivocal 11-17

Positive >17

Gliadin Ab IGg: 22

Negative<11

Equivocal 11-17

Positive >17

Endomysial

(tTG) Ab IgA <3

Negative <5

Equivocal 5-8

Positive >8

So....now I am in search of meaning. I did a brief search and understand that the IgA and (tTG)IgA is reflective of celiac, and IGg, not as much. I wonder if these numbers are reflective of an intolerance.

She has diarrhea regularly, headaches daily, migraines on occasion, joint aches often, is 5' 7" weighs 105 (just recently crossed over 100 pounds).

My husband (her father) has been on prilosec for years and just recently got off of is when we removed most grains from our daily diet. He often has diarrhea, gastro upset and is a poor sleeper. I suspect that he may be the potential hereditary link.

So if any of you out there can advise, or help me make sense of what this really means....I would appreciate some guidance.

Dace


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



WheatChef Apprentice

In celiac disease the body attacks itself in the intestine in response to gluten consumption. A positive or negative result on a celiac (tTG) test does not rule out the presence of reactions in other parts of the body. Being that your child had high IgG-gliadin values it is definitely suggestive of a gluten intolerance, the treatment for a gluten intolerance is exactly the same as for celiac disease.

Dace Rookie

In celiac disease the body attacks itself in the intestine in response to gluten consumption. A positive or negative result on a celiac (tTG) test does not rule out the presence of reactions in other parts of the body. Being that your child had high IgG-gliadin values it is definitely suggestive of a gluten intolerance, the treatment for a gluten intolerance is exactly the same as for celiac disease.

Thank you, that is what I thought but I just needed someone to confirm that for me!

carecare Enthusiast

Dace,

Hi there, man..does your post sound all too familiar. I think we are leading a double life...really...LOL

My now 17 yr old was tested about 5-6 yrs ago for Celiac and I was told it was negative. She had years of diahrea and illness. Then she had her appendix out and I was told the cells surrounding her appendix were consistant with someone who had celiac. So they did the blood test and I was told it was normal and never asked to look at it myself. I actually pulled her out of school at this time to homeschool as she just got sick all the time. Being at home helped so much. Fast forward to the last couple years. My husband has dealt with indigestion for our entire marriage...18 yrs. (his mother is lactose intolerant and claims to not be able to tolerate whole wheat...but I suspect gluten has caused her lactose intolerance and she's in denial..LOL)He's had severe bouts of diarrhea that happen pretty frequently. 2 yrs ago I convinced him to do a gluten free diet...his indigestion went away and the big D improved but then he gave up on it after 2 months and of course went back to feeling bad and it wasn't until October he did a Paleolythic challenge (totally gluten free) for an exercise forum he frequents was doing. He immediately noticed his indigestion went away. His big D completely cleared up but that took a good 4 to 5 months to clear out completely. Back in december or so I called my daughter's ped. and asked for the results of the celiac panel she had done years ago and right on the bottom of the results say "abnormal"...however, it wasn't abnormal enough to warrant them to tell me about it. Her Antigliadin AB-IGA 47 (flagged as high)...and it wasn't just a little high it seemed pretty high to me. I still don't know exactly what that means and if it means her body is reacting to gluten. The rest of the results were normal...besides her white count I think which was a little low. Fast forward to February and my 8 yr old son gets a stomach bug and from that day forward has had stomach pain. Tried prilosec for a month...didn't help. Been giving him probiotics. Tried a gluten free diet for only 2 wks for which actually he seemed to be improving then he cheated and then didn't seem any worse off...until a week later and now he's been on and off stomach pain for the last few weeks again. I can't decide if I should go all out again on the gluten free diet for him or get him a blood test before doing that. My husband refused to see a dr before going gluten free. I really would like some test to tell me yes or no because if he has problems with gluten...it will be out of my house for good (I know I know...it should be out of my house already because of my husband....but the kids are picky eaters and it's so easy to allow some gluten items).

Anyway, I hope you get some answers. If you do..please let me know. I'll be curious. Oh and your daughter has the same stats as mine...thought I don't know how old she is...mine is 17 and is 5'7 and about 105 lbs too...LOL Hmm...she gets occasional joint aches. My other daughter (15) actually was being treated by a rhuemotologist a couple years ago for her painful joints...which would always follow an illness by about 2 wks and last a month or two. It was very tough on her....but I can say the last couple years she's been good with that...and not many complaints and hasn't been to the doctor in a couple years regarding her joints. Actually, we did go gluten free for a couple months to see if it would help her joints and her ADHD but didn't notice much difference...but I probably didn't give it enough time.

Take care,

CC

Dace Rookie

Wow Carecare...we are definitely in the same exact boat!

I would interpret your DD's results as being yes, she has trouble (on some level) with gluten! The more I read, the more gluten intolerance/sensitivity/celiacs reminds me of autism....there is such a broad spectrum. If you DD is ill when consuming gluten, then it really does not matter what the numbers are.

I just took my 7 yr old to be tested today..even though she is consuming a very small amount of gluten I anticipate that her antibodies will be higher than her older sister.

We noticed my husbands health improving by cleaning up our diet...semi paleo, but we do dairy and the occasional grains.

For a while, I think he really thought this was all made up in my head. He just did not really see the connection because his whole life he has had GI issues. We have been off most wheat and grains for several months, but he still cheats regularly. For the last week he has been very good about his diet, no cheats, like pretzels or anything. Yesterday he went to subway and had a sandwich on whole grain bread and started to feel the indigestion creep up on him very quickly. I think that sealed the deal!

I encourage you to get your kids checked. Ask specifically for testing, don't ask for the Dr's opinion! And ask for copies of all lab work!!

Good luck!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Rogol72 replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    2. - Scott Adams replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    3. - MogwaiStripe replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    4. - Butch68 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,220
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Dye42
    Newest Member
    Dye42
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Rogol72
      Hey @Butch68, I also have dermatitis herpetiformis but don't suffer from it anymore. I used to drink Guinness too but I drink Cider now when out on social occasions. I assume you are in Ireland or the UK. If it's any good to you ... 9 White Deer based in Cork brew a range of gluten-free products including a gluten-free Stout. I'm not sure if they are certified though. https://www.9whitedeer.ie/ I haven't come across any certified gluten-free stouts this side of the pond.
    • Scott Adams
      This is a very common question, and the most important thing to know is that no, Guinness is not considered safe for individuals with coeliac disease. While it's fascinating to hear anecdotes from other coeliacs who can drink it without immediate issues, this is a risky exception rather than the rule. The core issue is that Guinness is brewed from barley, which contains gluten, and the standard brewing process does not remove the gluten protein to a level safe for coeliacs (below 20ppm). For someone like you who experiences dermatitis herpetiformis, the reaction is particularly significant. DH is triggered by gluten ingestion, even without immediate gastrointestinal symptoms. So, while you may not feel an instant stomach upset, drinking a gluten-containing beer like Guinness could very well provoke a flare-up of your skin condition days later. It would be a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable and long-lasting consequence. Fortunately, there are excellent, certified gluten-free stouts available now that can provide a safe and satisfying alternative without the risk.
    • MogwaiStripe
      Interestingly, this thought occurred to me last night. I did find that there are studies investigating whether vitamin D deficiency can actually trigger celiac disease.  Source: National Institutes of Health https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7231074/ 
    • Butch68
      Before being diagnosed coeliac I used to love Guinness. Being made from barley it should be something a coeliac shouldn’t drink. But taking to another coeliac and they can drink it with no ill effects and have heard of others who can drink it too.  is this everyone’s experience?  Can I drink it?  I get dermatitis herpetiformis and don’t get instant reactions to gluten so can’t try it to see for myself. 
    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.