Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Will My Friends And Family Believe Me...


Deanna Marie

Recommended Posts

Deanna Marie Newbie

Hi Guys, I'm Deanna from the UK and have a question for you :)

I am 100% sure that I have a problem with wheat, but I am nervous that my Celiac blood test will come back negative, although I know from experience that I will need to avoid gluten, I am worried about how I explain to my family that I can't eat wheat etc when they ask me 'are you a Celiac?' and I have to say 'no, I'm not'.

Has anybody had a negative blood test and had difficulties with family thinking that 'it's all in your mind, there's nothing wrong with you...just eat food, you're attention seeking, making a mountain out of a molehill' etc?

I am pretty sure that I'm am just having the blood test so that I can hand my family a doctors note with the proof on it arghhhh!

Many thanks for contributing to this wonderful site btw, you've been a great help to me already and I can see you help many others too.

Deanna

P.S. Much to my dismay the blood test results for Anemia will take only 1 week, the results for Celiac...8 Weeks! Shocking!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



luvs2eat Collaborator

I don't know why it matters that the "test" proves you have celiac? If eating gluten free makes you feel better, then what's the problem? I guess it wouldn't matter if it was never an issue... meaning you can simply bring your own food to anywhere away from home and don't eat out a lot or do your own research if you do. I've never had a problem w/ people not believing me or saying anything about it at all cause I've never made any of it an issue. It's not that different from a peanut allergy or even a food dislike. If you get a negative blood test, you simply CHOOSE to eat gluten free cause it's good for YOU. It doesn't matter if people believe you or not... as long as you take care of yourself and do what you need to.

Deanna Marie Newbie

That's very true, thankyou, I'm not sure what planet I've been on recently, I feel that I'm actually not sure why I need to prove anything, it may be, and don't laugh, but my mother is very, well, she know's everything and everybody else knows nothing, and I think maybe I am still feel a little scared of her wrath even though I'm nearly 40 :)

I choose to eat gluten free because it's good for me - I may write that on a little post-it note and stick it on my fridge!

Thankyou again.x

I don't know why it matters that the "test" proves you have celiac? If eating gluten free makes you feel better, then what's the problem? I guess it wouldn't matter if it was never an issue... meaning you can simply bring your own food to anywhere away from home and don't eat out a lot or do your own research if you do. I've never had a problem w/ people not believing me or saying anything about it at all cause I've never made any of it an issue. It's not that different from a peanut allergy or even a food dislike. If you get a negative blood test, you simply CHOOSE to eat gluten free cause it's good for YOU. It doesn't matter if people believe you or not... as long as you take care of yourself and do what you need to.

txplowgirl Enthusiast

Hi Deanna

I totally undertand where you're coming from. I have never tested because the way my luck is I probably would be negative. BUT, I have told my family members that I have had a positive test because I knew they wouldn't believe me about gluten being the reason for most of everyones health problems.

I have several members with different types of cancers, plus rheumatoid arthritis, thyroid disease and lupus, etc. The list just goes on and on. I have sucessfully talked so far 2 cousins and an aunt into trying the gluten free diet. One cousin has had lupus and seizures for over 25 years. She's been gluten free for over 8 months now and she has been so far seizure free for 2 months. This is a lady who has had seizures every 2 days since she was 10. She's 54 now. Even her lupus is starting to get better.

She has told everyone they can kiss her rear end because they just don't want to believe that it's the food we eat that is causing this.

Right now, i'm trying to talk my brother into going gluten free because he has a lot of health problems that can be resolved if he would just do it. It is hard to convince some people. Like the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

I wish you luck.

Deanna Marie Newbie

Thankyou for your reply, I know that my mother, brothers and sister and their children all show signs of food intolerance, with three of them already milk intolerent, I suppose in my heart I hope for a postive test result, so that I can say quite plainly say to all of them, please, go and get tested for Celieac as it is a genetic problem.

But I now realise that, the test result isn't the most important thing in the world, it's my experience that really counts. it is wonderful to hear that you have been able to help other family members too, you must have been a little nervous about it to start with.

Now I think back, my Mom and Brother only learnt they were intolerent to milk after I drew their attention to it based on my own experiences...it's almost as if our family believes that all food is good for us and can't be the cause of any illness...I suspect your family had similar beliefs, you have done well to help them...I have to build my confidence first...it does make me giggle to imagine a 54 year old lady saying they can 'kiss my butt'!

I hope that when the results come through, I will not lose heart, either way... I've already put the post-it note on my fridge with a big smiley face :)

Hi Deanna

I totally undertand where you're coming from. I have never tested because the way my luck is I probably would be negative. BUT, I have told my family members that I have had a positive test because I knew they wouldn't believe me about gluten being the reason for most of everyones health problems.

I have several members with different types of cancers, plus rheumatoid arthritis, thyroid disease and lupus, etc. The list just goes on and on. I have sucessfully talked so far 2 cousins and an aunt into trying the gluten free diet. One cousin has had lupus and seizures for over 25 years. She's been gluten free for over 8 months now and she has been so far seizure free for 2 months. This is a lady who has had seizures every 2 days since she was 10. She's 54 now. Even her lupus is starting to get better.

She has told everyone they can kiss her rear end because they just don't want to believe that it's the food we eat that is causing this.

Right now, i'm trying to talk my brother into going gluten free because he has a lot of health problems that can be resolved if he would just do it. It is hard to convince some people. Like the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

I wish you luck.

Jill0711 Rookie

Wow! Eight weeks?!? That is a really long time to wait on results. I thought 1 week to wait on biopsies a long time. I hope that the time passes quickly for you and you get the results you are seeking. In the whole scheme of things, just remember that you are in charge of your own body and your own health. Don't ever apologize for doing what you need to do to take care of yourself even without a positive test. For the record, my test was negative, but my biopsy was positive. It is possible to have a negative test and even a negative EDG and still have Celiac.

Keela Newbie

I tested negative for wheat allergies and celiac... When my family asked why I don't eat it I explain what happens to me in graphic detail... Very graphic. They only ask once :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Cypressmyst Explorer

You can just tell them you have Celiac or begin educating them on Gluten Sensitivity/Intolerance. It has to start somewhere and it isn't going to come from the pill pushers (Docs and T.V). This is a grassroots effort. ;)

My family has been skeptical and fascinated all at once. :rolleyes: It is very bizarre.

However I have had several friends go gluten free since I told them about it and the results speak for themselves. B)

  • 4 weeks later...
Deanna Marie Newbie

Thank you all, I'm glad to say that I'm feeling less anxious and able to think a little more clearly now that I've stopped eating wheat now. The only person who has dismissed my food intolerance is the CBT counselor I am seeing, who is quite certain that my symptoms are caused by depression and not food, needless to say, I haven't bothered continuing the discussion with her because it was quite clear after one session that she would not be swayed from her belief. Talk about inappropriate bias from a proffesional. I am quite sure that at large number of people with anxiety and depression could be helped by looking at what they eat!

My apologies for putting my post in the wrong section, I initially intended to ask friends and family how they initially reacted to discovering their loved-one had coeliac, but in my hazy, foggy, anxious state of mind didn't quite know what I was doing at the time :unsure:

kind regards

Deanna

nmthommy Rookie

I tested negative for celiac and gluten sensitivity with the blood test. I then had a stool panel done and it shows that I'm highly gluten sensitive. Less than 10 units is normal. My result is 151 units.

I also say I have celiac because it's treated the same way. I highly recommend the stool panel test with EnteroLab. www.enterolab.com

I also did their other tests one being a DNA test that shows I inherited it from my parents and my children have at least one gene. I'm getting them tested soon.

Juliebove Rising Star

My daughter is not celiac but she has IgG allergies to wheat and some other foods. The typical skin prick at the allergist did not show an IgE allergy. But wheat is still a problem for her.

My mom is not a celiac nor does she show any kind of allergy to wheat. But she still can not eat it. She has Rhuematoid Arthritis and for that reason must avoid wheat and nightshades. If she does not, her joints swell and she has a lot of pain.

I have IgG food allergies, OAS (oral allergy syndrome), GERD and gastroparesis (slowed digestion). For these reasons there are certain foods I simply can not eat. I also can't tolerate garlic except in very small proportions. Gives me horrid stomach pains. Oh yes, and then there is the diabetes. Have to watch the carbs.

I can think of one person I know (who shall remain nameless) who does not believe that any of us have a problem with these foods. And we do not think very highly of him for that and other reasons.

If you have a problem with wheat and tell your friends this, but find that they do not believe you, then they are not really your friends.

mcc0523 Newbie

Thank you all, I'm glad to say that I'm feeling less anxious and able to think a little more clearly now that I've stopped eating wheat now. The only person who has dismissed my food intolerance is the CBT counselor I am seeing, who is quite certain that my symptoms are caused by depression and not food, needless to say, I haven't bothered continuing the discussion with her because it was quite clear after one session that she would not be swayed from her belief. Talk about inappropriate bias from a proffesional. I am quite sure that at large number of people with anxiety and depression could be helped by looking at what they eat!

My apologies for putting my post in the wrong section, I initially intended to ask friends and family how they initially reacted to discovering their loved-one had coeliac, but in my hazy, foggy, anxious state of mind didn't quite know what I was doing at the time :unsure:

kind regards

Deanna

I would think about getting a new therapist. Yes, they "only" deal with emotional problems, but the good ones will recognize that physical illnesses can have things like depression and anxiety as symptoms, sometimes the only symptoms. In fact, it was a psychologist friend who first told me to consider vitamin deficiencies, perhaps caused by celiac or something else that causes malabsorption, and that he didn't believe that I ONLY had problems with depression/anxiety.

Something like that (that she doesn't believe that food intolerances can lead to symptoms, even after you told her that it does do that to YOU) is a major no-no for me in a therapist and a sign that they should be fired, if at all possible.

  • 3 weeks later...
brittanymaine Newbie

Your family should only want the best for you, I don't see why they wouldn't believe you. If they don't believe you have an allergy to gluten, you should explain to them what could happen to you if you continue to eat gluten

WW340 Rookie

I am not sure why people that have celiac disease or gluten intolerance feel the need to produce proof to friends and family.

I was "classically" diagnosed, however, I have never shown any family member or friend my results. It never occured to me that maybe someone would not believe that I had it.

How many people with various food allergies are expected to present proof of such allergy?

Lactose intolerance is most frequently diagnosed by elimination, yet, I don't see people really concerned about whether or not someone will believe they are lactose intolerant.

You were sick. You have been tested by elimination. You feel better on the diet, and your symptoms are improved or resolved on the diet. Case closed!

If you treat this very matter-of-factly, they will get it. There may be some initial confusion about what the disease is and what it entails, but you can help them understand that by providing information about the disease.

I really think some folks misinterpret lack of knowledge about the disease with not believing you have it. I know lots of people find it pretty unbelievable that there are people in this world that cannot eat wheat. I simply educate those people.

Takala Enthusiast

Some people's relative's are more..... difficult than others. :P

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - suek54 replied to suek54's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      7

      Awaiting dermatitis herpetiformis confirmation following biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to suek54's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      7

      Awaiting dermatitis herpetiformis confirmation following biopsy

    3. - suek54 replied to suek54's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      7

      Awaiting dermatitis herpetiformis confirmation following biopsy

    4. - trents replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,259
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Tdodge
    Newest Member
    Tdodge
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • suek54
      Wow KK, thank you so much for all your attached info. I had a very quick scan but will read more in depth later.  The one concerning corticosteroid use is very interesting. That would relate to secondary adrenal insufficiency I think , ie AI caused by steroids such as taken long term for eg asthma. I have primary autoimmune AI, my adrenals are atrophied, no chance if recovery there. But I am in touch with some secondaries, so something to bear in mind. .  Niacin B3 Very interesting too. Must have a good read about that.  Im sure lots of questions will arise as I progress with dermatitis herpetiformis. In the mean time, thanks for your help.
    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @suek54, I have Dermatitis Herpetiformis, too.  I found taking Niacin B3 very helpful in clearing my skin from blisters as well as improving the itchies-without-rash (peripheral neuropathy).  Niacin has been used since the 1950's to improve dermatitis herpetiformis.   I try to balance my iodine intake (which will cause flairs) with Selenium which improves thyroid function.   Interesting Reading: Dermatitis herpetiformis effectively treated with heparin, tetracycline and nicotinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10844495/   Experience with selenium used to recover adrenocortical function in patients taking glucocorticosteroids long https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24437222/   Two Cases of Dermatitis Herpetiformis Successfully Treated with Tetracycline and Niacinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30390734/   Steroid-Resistant Rash With Neuropsychiatric Deterioration and Weight Loss: A Modern-Day Case of Pellagra https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12532421/#:~:text=Figure 2.,(right panel) upper limbs.&text=The distribution of the rash,patient's substantial response to treatment.   Nicotinic acid therapy of dermatitis herpetiformis (1950) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15412276/
    • suek54
      Thank you all for your advice and the dermatitis herpetiformis article. The latter made me realise I had stopped taking my antihistamine, which I will restart today. The Dapsone has cleared the rash entirely but I still get quite a bit itching, absolutely nothing to see though. I know its notoriously hard to clear and its still relatively early days for me.  The iodine issue is very interesting. I do eat quite a bit of salt because I have Addison's disease and sodium retention is an issue. I also have autoimmune hypothyroidism, not sure how a low iodine diet would play into that? Because of my Addison's I am totally steroid dependent, I take steroids 4 x daily and cannot mount any defence against inflammation. I need to increase my meds for that. Now that I know what is wrong I can do just that if Im having a bad day. Life is very sweet, just so damn complicated sometimes! Hey ho, onwards. Thank you again for your advice.  
    • trents
      So, essentially all of the nutrition in the food we eat is absorbed through the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestinal track that is damaged by celiac disease. This villous lining is composed of billions of finger-like projections that create a huge amount of surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the celiac person, when gluten is consumed, it triggers an autoimmune reaction in this area which, of course, generates inflammation. The antibodies connected with this inflammation is what the celiac blood tests are designed to detect but this inflammation, over time, wears down the finger-like projections of the villous lining. Of course, when this proceeds for an extended period of time, greatly reduces the absorption efficiency of the villous lining and often results in many and various nutrient deficiency-related health issues. Classic examples would be osteoporosis and iron deficiency. But there are many more. Low D3 levels is a well-known celiac-caused nutritional deficiency. So is low B12. All the B vitamins in fact. Magnesium, zinc, etc.  Celiac disease can also cause liver inflammation. You mention elevated ALP levels. Elevated liver enzymes over a period of 13 years was what led to my celiac diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes normalized. I had elevated AST and ALT. The development of sensitivities to other food proteins is very common in the celiac population. Most common cross reactive foods are dairy and oats but eggs, soy and corn are also relatively common offenders. Lactose intolerance is also common in the celiac population because of damage to the SB lining.  Eggs when they are scrambled or fried give me a gut ache. But when I poach them, they do not. The steam and heat of poaching causes a hydrolysis process that alters the protein in the egg. They don't bother me in baked goods either so I assume the same process is at work. I bought a plastic poacher on Amazon to make poaching very easy. All this to say that many of the issues you describe could be caused by celiac disease. 
    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.