Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

What Should I Do About My Friend?


Melstar23

Recommended Posts

Melstar23 Apprentice

I invited my friend over for dinner, she told me that she can't eat wheat, dairy or nightshades as she is intolerant to them all (she is also vegetarian). I'm gluten intolerant and my partner is vegetarian, so I'm used to cooking with those constraints and reading labels for ingredients. I spend a fair amount of time searching for recipes that fit her requirements, and searching the supermarket for things like gluten free, nightshade free vegie stock because my normal gluten free stock has capsicum and potato as ingredients.

The thing is that when she came over she tells me that she has been cheating on her diet everyday. She complained that it was really hard to do it properly because she like to eat out most days and no one caters to her diet. She said that she had been really good because she had been buying gluten-free vegan muffins, I asked her if she was sure there was no potato flour in the muffins and she had no idea. She that it doesn't matter if she has a little bit. She's no going to be strict with her diet because she has too many parties coming up and it is too hard to do.

I feel frustrated that she goes on and on about her food intolerances, and I put in care for her food so not to make her sick, but then she's not even following the diet any other time. I could never eat food if she bothered to cook for me because I know that she would not read the labels as a little bit of gluten won't hurt. I would love to be able to just go off my gluten free diet because it's inconvenient for parties, but I can't because I'll pay for it for a week afterwards.

I suggested that if she really thinks she's intolerant to these foods, she should try an elimination diet and keep a journal, but I doubt she will do that. My partner thinks I should just ignore her when she brings up the topic... I don't know...


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



eatmeat4good Enthusiast

It is a terrible struggle internally to come to the realization that you have to follow food restrictions.

Having one is hard, but multiple is harder. No one goes from zero to ten...we all have a learning curve.

I think you are a wonderful friend for cooking carefully for her. She has to come to terms with her food intolerances and she shares them with you in part of that process.

She shares her struggle with you. That is what friends do. You share your struggle with us. That is what you need to do to be a good friend to her.

You should neither ignore her, nor abandon carefully preparing her food if she visits. But you have come to terms with this better than she has for herself. You should share your strength with her and be supportive of her while she tries to abandon and then follow the food restrictions she has. This is not easy for her. She WILL have to do it if she wants to be healthy.

But it isn't exactly like a drug addict or an alcoholic who ends up using you and making you miserable. I mean she isn't getting high or anything...just having a hard time coming to terms with not being able to eat what most people can.

So if you invite her for dinner again, have her help cook. Keep trying to talk to her and help her problem solve if you value her friendship. If it becomes too difficult or you feel used in some way then you can back off. But if you have other areas where she is a true friend to you, then try to understand that she isn't wanting to hurt herself really, she just doesn't have the kind of self-discipline that you do. And sad to say, she will pay for it in the end.

Stay strong and supportive if you can. And you can also say to her that she doesn't make sense when she tells you to cook carefully, but then she eats whatever she wants when she is out anyway. Good friends are a mirror for the other....we can show each other where we need to improve and where we are already doing realy good.

Hang in there. I do know it isn't easy. I have a son who has to come to terms with some of these things too. And some days it is a struggle for me to stay supportive too. But they will both get there with our help. Of course

mushroom Proficient

I know, it is infuriating. My sister was gluten free before I stopped eating gluten, and I threw a gluten free sit-down birthday luncheon for her, with a total of 14 guests (all her friends in my town - she lives elsewhere).. Bought an expensive gluten free birthday cake for that number, and told her that the rolls were for the gluten eaters - they were not gluten free. So during lunch she announces "I am going to be naughty and proceeds to scoff two bread rolls :huh::blink: I could've killed her. If it happened now, I think I would :ph34r: But she doesn't cheat any more (she of the more neuro than gastro symptoms) I think partially because she sees that I do not. :D

Juliebove Rising Star

Oh boy does this sound familiar!

My mom has to avoid wheat and nightshades for her arthritis. And then she has multiple food allergies. She'll order a waffle after announcing that she is avoiding eggs. I won't even mention the wheat in the waffle! I'll remind her that there are eggs in it. She will look surprised! And then try to tell me that it's a waffle. Not eggs!

I think part of the problem is that she hates to cook and for the most part hasn't done it in years. She does make a few things at home. But mostly the same things over and over again. So maybe she really doesn't know what is in a waffle.

I take these things seriously. And if I am eating out and unsure of what is in something or how it is made, I ask! I think most people would assume there is no wheat in French fries but we know better!

It finally got to the point with my mom where she got angry with my daughter and I constantly mentioning her diet. This after constantly witnessing her eating that which she isn't supposed to and then complaining about being sick and she didn't know why. Grrr... She told us to not mention her diet any more. So we don't.

But if I have to cook for her, I have to make sure that I don't use anything she shouldn't have.

In the case of your friend... If I were making a meal for her I would do something simple like beans and rice. Maybe a gluten free apple crisp for dessert, using coconut oil instead of butter or margarine. Or perhaps you could do an egg dish? I can't remember now if you all can do eggs. I can't.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    2. - par18 replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    3. - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    4. - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      IBS-D vs Celiac

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,339
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Teresa King
    Newest Member
    Teresa King
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • SilkieFairy
      I realized it is actually important to get an official diagnosis because then insurance can cover bone density testing and other lab work to see if any further damage has been done because of it. Also, if hospitalized for whatever reason, I have the right to gluten-free food if I am officially celiac. I guess it gives me some legal protections. Plus, I have 4 kids, and I really want to know. If I really do have it then they may have increased risk. 
    • par18
      Been off this forum for years. Is it that important that you get an official diagnosis of something? It appears like you had a trigger (wheat, gluten, whatever) and removing it has resolved your symptom. I can't speak for you, but I had known what my trigger was (gluten) years before my diagnosis I would just stay gluten-free and get on with my symptom free condition. I was diagnosed over 20 years ago and have been symptom free only excluding wheat, rye and barley. I tolerate all naturally gluten free whole foods including things like beans which actually helps to form the stools. 
    • trents
      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.