Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Validation-Finally. Genetic Testing Positive


IrishHeart

Recommended Posts

IrishHeart Veteran

I just want to thank all of you for your incredible support, encouragement, advice and friendship for the last 4 months. :) You may never know how much it has helped to validate me and my long struggle for answers to a long, perplexing health nightmare, but it has been invaluable. I am so grateful for this forum and the wealth of information it provides. No doctor, book or website ever adequately explains the REAL life experience of dealing with gluten intolerance and the widespread havoc it causes and what really needs to be done to start on a healing path. Just being told "don't eat gluten" does NOT cover it.

I tested NEG on blood work ( I was gluten-free at the time and the doctor told me it would "not impact the result" :blink:) and that the only thing it showed was soy intolerance and it was okay to go ahead and eat gluten! :blink: I never had the biopsy because a negligent GI doctor did the endoscopy 2 years ago and failed to biopsy for reasons he never explained. :angry:

No one took my drastic weight, hair and massive muscle loss seriously. (it's "just IBS ") The horrible joint/bone and burning nerve pain. (it "may be " fibromyalgia) Miscarriages, years of insomnia, migraines, anxiety (it's just "stress")... I suffered dozens of horrifying and frightening symptoms and related conditions(some I have described in various posts or in personal messages, so I'll spare you all the gory details once more) and some I fought hard for testing these past 2 years to reveal: both B-12 and Folate deficiency anemia, osteopenia, Vitamin D def., pelvic floor dysfunction, neuropathy, dental enamel defects...and on and on. I was so lost in space and pain for the last 3 years, I thought I'd rather be dead than live like this, but I just would not give up because I want to live and live fully! My loving husband gave me the strength to keep going, and I just kept researching and reading (as best as I could comprehend) because I KNEW something was keeping me ill and in chronic pain. I refused to accept my fate (as some suggested) and "buy a scooter " to get around. :blink:

My health history (and my Dad's) is a laundry-list that screams "CELIAC!" but I went LONG undiagnosed, even though I repeatedly asked if it was a gluten problem. My whole family (aunts, uncles, cousins, siblings)is ripe with autoimmune diseases (diabetes, gall bladder, rheumatoid arthritis, crohn's, MS, asthma, allergies, thyroid disease, cancer, etc.) and my Dad suffered anemia, unexplained blood loss requiring frequent transfusions, H. pylori and ulcers, constipation and/or diarrhea, GERD, kidney disease and severe itching skin-- but even those factors were never considered as part of evaluating me for Celiac disease. I thought I would die before anyone figured it out--that's how bad I was. My worst symptoms --especially the burning skin and neuropathy -- appeared at the same time he died in February 2008.I provided all of this information over and over again in hopes someone (and I saw many doctors, mainstream and "alternative" and "functional") would help me figure this out, but no one did. We spent THOUSANDS of dollars on tests, PT, etc...but my gastro symptoms continued and I dwindled down to nothing and I live in pain from head to toe 24/7. No drugs help.

I figured it out myself. My primary care doctor, after years of trying to help me by symptom- treating and sending me to specialists, finally said in November 2010, after I went back ONE MORE TIME and told him I KNOW what this is...."OMG! you are right!" His own children have celiac and yet, my symptoms did not click with him? :angry::blink:

And so, finally, I managed to get a genetic test run and yesterday, after so many years, I received validation. The double genes from both of my parents.

Now, I will inform my mother and then, my HUGE family so they can decide what to do with this information. I hope they don't "shoot the messenger" :lol: they are already resistant to my suggestions that this is familial.

I cannot tell you how relieved I am to know that my gut instincts (pun intended) were right all along and that going gluten-free saved my very life. Hubby and I actually high-fived and shouted for joy when I read those results. And then, I sobbed my heart out --not for me, but for my Dad. If only we had known.

I can't change the past--his or mine--but I can change my future and hopefully, if they listen to me, help my family. I have felt better this past week (4 months gluten-free) than I have in years and even though I have a long road ahead of me still with grueling physical therapy and regaining muscle mass and strength (and hopefully, my hair will grow back!)...this gradual recovery from that hell-filled rabbit hole I fell down was all the proof I really needed anyway.

but, validation sure is sweet. :D I have some "I told you so's!!" to spread around..and I will, in due time... B)

Thanks again !!--you guys are the best!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cahill Collaborator

Your journey is way to common among us. :( I am sorry your journey has been so difficult but you have prevailed .

You are on your way to health and that is PRICELESS. :D

My hope is that as WE become more educated so do our DOCTORS.

Validation is an AMAZING thing isnt it? B)

I hope you have better result with your family than I did. The members of my very large family that were not receptive to celiac's/gluten free before my diagnoses are still not,even with my diagnoses :( I have given them the information and what they do with it is totally on them now, but it saddens my heart to know the suffering that many of them will endure because they cant/wont go gluten free :(

IrishHeart Veteran

Your journey is way to common among us. :( I am sorry your journey has been so difficult but you have prevailed .

You are on your way to health and that is PRICELESS. :D

My hope is that as WE become more educated so do our DOCTORS.

Validation is an AMAZING thing isnt it? B)

I hope you have better result with your family than I did. The members of my very large family that were not receptive to celiac's/gluten free before my diagnoses are still not,even with a diagnoses :( I have given them the information and what they do with it is totally on them now, but it saddens my heart to know the suffering they will endure because they wont even consider testing and cant/wont go gluten free :(

First of all, I apologize--I must have missed somehow that you got your diagnosis, chill!! That's great news...right!? I am happy for YOUR validation! Feeling better??

Second, I have already had resistance from some...but perhaps, they will see the light. We can only try. THEY are the real reason I did the test. For them, their children and grandchildren.

cahill Collaborator

First of all, I apologize--I must have missed somehow that you got your diagnosis, chill!! That's great news...right!? I am happy for YOUR validation! Feeling better??

Second, I have already had resistance from some...but perhaps, they will see the light. We can only try. THEY are the real reason I did the test. For them, their children and grandchildren.

I was JUST diagnosed April 18th by my new GI,,, amazing woman that she is :) ,,, My diagnose only took 40+ years to get <_< I cried for about a week straight,alot of emotions bouncing all over the place ,

My children and grandchildren are the main reason I even tried to get an firm "official" diagnoses. My hope is that my diagnoses with make their path with doctors a whole lot easier.

Congratulation Irish :)

IrishHeart Veteran

I was JUST diagnosed April 18th by my new GI,,, amazing woman that she is :) ,,, My diagnose only took 40+ years to get <_< I cried for about a week straight,alot of emotions bouncing all over the place ,

My children and grandchildren are the main reason I even tried to get an firm "official" diagnoses. My hope is that my diagnoses with make their path with doctors a whole lot easier.

Congratulation Irish :)

Right back at ya, Chill! ;) I know you have struggled to get answers as well.

Yeah, I am giddy and crying at the same time!

Sadly, I never carried to term :( (I tried many times)and even fertility treatment failed. They did not test for celiac back in the 90's as they do now when there are so many miscarriages.

I mostly did this for my siblings and their children and over my 32 cousins--both sides--with large families as well...so they can at least know it is in our genes and perhaps avoid further illness and live long, healthy lives! :D

eatmeat4good Enthusiast

Wonderful news IrishHeart!!!

You are inspiring. Good for you for letting your relatives know. All you can do it try.

So glad you got the validation. And that you are well into your recovery. Hope your recovery is smooth from here on!

IrishHeart Veteran

Wonderful news IrishHeart!!!

You are inspiring. Good for you for letting your relatives know. All you can do it try.

So glad you got the validation. And that you are well into your recovery. Hope your recovery is smooth from here on!

thanks, my meaty friend!! ;)

You and I know how much our struggle has cost us, but we both are on our way to good health! thanks for the many chats and encouragement!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,134
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Driver
    Newest Member
    Driver
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Sarah Grace
      Dear Kitty Since March I have been following your recommendations regarding vitamins to assist with various issues that I have been experiencing.  To recap, I am aged 68 and was late diagnosed with Celiac about 12 years ago.  I had been experiencing terrible early morning headaches which I had self diagnosed as hypoglycaemia.  I also mentioned that I had issues with insomnia, vertigo and brain fog.   It's now one year since I started on the Benfotiamine 600 mg/day.  I am still experiencing the hypoglycaemia and it's not really possible to say for sure whether the Benfotiamine is helpful.  In March this year, I added B-Complex Thiamine Hydrochloride and Magnesium L-Threonate on a daily basis, and I am now confident to report that the insomnia and vertigo and brain fog have all improved!!  So, very many thanks for your very helpful advice. I am now less confident that the early morning headaches are caused by hypoglycaemia, as even foods with a zero a GI rating (cheese, nuts, etc) can cause really server headaches, which sometimes require migraine medication in order to get rid off.  If you are able to suggest any other treatment I would definitely give it a try, as these headaches are a terrible burden.  Doctors in the UK have very limited knowledge concerning dietary issues, and I do not know how to get reliable advice from them. Best regards,
    • knitty kitty
      @rei.b,  I understand how frustrating starting a new way of eating can be.  I tried all sorts of gluten-free processed foods and just kept feeling worse.  My health didn't improve until I started the low histamine AIP diet.  It makes a big difference.   Gluten fits into opioid receptors in our bodies.  So, removing gluten can cause withdrawal symptoms and reveals the underlying discomfort.  SIBO can cause digestive symptoms.  SIBO can prevent vitamins from being absorbed by the intestines.  Thiamine insufficiency causes Gastrointestinal Beriberi (bloating, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea or constipation).  Thiamine is the B vitamin that runs out first because it can only be stored for two weeks.  We need more thiamine when we're sick or under emotional stress.  Gastric Beriberi is under recognised by doctors.  An Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test is more accurate than a blood test for thiamine deficiency, but the best way to see if you're low in thiamine is to take it and look for health improvement.  Don't take Thiamine Mononitrate because the body can't utilize it well.  Try Benfotiamine.  Thiamine is water soluble, nontoxic and safe even at high doses.  I thought it was crazy, too, but simple vitamins and minerals are important.  The eight B vitamins work together, so a B Complex, Benfotiamine,  magnesium and Vitamin D really helped get my body to start healing, along with the AIP diet.  Once you heal, you add foods back in, so the AIP diet is worth doing for a few months. I do hope you'll consider the AIP diet and Benfotiamine.
    • captaincrab55
      Imemsm, Most of us have experienced discontinued, not currently available or products that suddenly become seasonal.   My biggest fear about relocating from Maryland to Florida 5 years ago, was being able to find gluten-free foods that fit my restricted diet.  I soon found out that the Win Dixie and Publix supper markets actually has 99% of their gluten-free foods tagged, next to the price.  The gluten-free tags opened up a  lot of foods that aren't actually marked gluten-free by the manufacture.  Now I only need to check for my other dietary restrictions.  Where my son lives in New Hartford, New York there's a Hannaford Supermarket that also has a gluten-free tag next to the price tag.  Hopefully you can locate a Supermarket within a reasonable travel distance that you can learn what foods to check out at a Supermarket close to you.  I have dermatitis herpetiformis too and I'm very sensitive to gluten and the three stores I named were very gluten-free friendly.  Good Luck 
    • rei.b
      Okay well the info about TTG-A actually makes a lot of sense and I wish the PA had explained that to me. But yes, I would assume I would have intestinal damage from eating a lot of gluten for 32 years while having all these symptoms. As far as avoiding gluten foods - I was definitely not doing that. Bread, pasta, quesadillas (with flour tortillas) and crackers are my 4 favorite foods and I ate at least one of those things multiple times a day e.g. breakfast with eggs and toast, a cheese quesadilla for lunch, and pasta for dinner, and crackers and cheese as a before bed snack. I'm not even kidding.  I'm not really big on sugar, so I don't really do sweets. I don't have any of those conditions.  I am not sure if I have the genes or not. When the geneticist did my genetic testing for EDS this year, I didn't think to ask for him to request the celiac genes so they didn't test for them, unfortunately.  I guess another expectation I had is  that if gluten was the issue, the gluten-free diet would make me feel better, and I'm 3 months in and that hasn't been the case. I am being very careful and reading every label because I didn't want to screw this up and have to do gluten-free for longer than necessary if I end up not having celiac. I'm literally checking everything, even tea and anything else prepacked like caramel dip. Honestly its making me anxious 😅
    • knitty kitty
      So you're saying that you think you should have severe intestinal damage since you've had the symptoms so long?   DGP IgG antibodies are produced in response to a partial gluten molecule.  This is different than what tissue transglutaminase antibodies are  produced in response to.   TTg IgA antibodies are produced in the intestines in response to gluten.  The tTg IgA antibodies attack our own cells because a structural component in our cell membranes resembles a part of gluten.  There's a correlation between the level of intestinal damage with the level of tTg antibodies produced.  You are not producing a high number of tTg IgA antibodies, so your level of tissue damage in your intestines is not very bad.  Be thankful.   There may be reasons why you are not producing a high quantity of tTg IgA antibodies.  Consuming ten grams or more of gluten a day for two weeks to two months before blood tests are done is required to get sufficient antibody production and damage to the intestines.  Some undiagnosed people tend to subconsciously avoid lots of gluten.  Cookies and cakes do not contain as much gluten as artisan breads and thick chewy pizza crust.  Anemia, diabetes and thiamine deficiency can affect IgA antibody production as well.   Do you carry genes for Celiac?  They frequently go along with EDS.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.