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Gluten Challenge: Tips?!

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healinginprogress Enthusiast
healinginprogress
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So...8 months later and I'm FINALLY getting the colonoscopy and gastroscopy I need before I can get surgery. I've still been quite ill, despite going gluten-free, so there is some concern that more is going on, but it may just be the damage they are planning to repair. While they're messing around in there they want to do a biopsy do get the "DEFINITIVE DIAGNOSIS". So? Gluten Challenge! Well, after merely a day and a half, I understand why it's called a "Challenge"!!!

I'm wondering if anyone has tips for dealing with any of the symptoms? The nausea seems to be the worst for me so far (haven't got to the big "D" yet...), along with a migraine, fogginess, anxiety, and fatigue.

If anyone found great ways to cope with the challenge...please...SHARE!!! :)

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domesticactivist
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I haven't done it, but I have a couple thoughts for you.

1. How long are they having you do the challenge before the biopsy? A few days is not enough for an accurate result.

2. Please record all your symptoms and what you ate in detail. That way if you can't stick with the challenge at least you'll have something to show your doctor.

Good luck!

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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Keep a record of symptoms as the other poster stated. In addition if things get bad call the doctor's office and ask to speak with either the doctor or a nurse. They may need to call you back but most will. Then give them all the gory details if you are being woken up at night by the pain and D make sure they know that. Some doctors will advise you to stop the challenge if symptoms are severe.

Googles Community Regular
Googles
Posted

When I get glutened I get nausea for multiple days afterwards (once for 3 months). My doctor prescribed an anti-nausea med to help me be able to eat, as without it I couldn't keep food down. It helped a lot. You might want to look into that for the nausea. I was going to say make sure it is gluten free, but if you are on a challenge, that might not matter.

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Monklady123
Posted

So...8 months later and I'm FINALLY getting the colonoscopy and gastroscopy I need before I can get surgery. I've still been quite ill, despite going gluten-free, so there is some concern that more is going on, but it may just be the damage they are planning to repair. While they're messing around in there they want to do a biopsy do get the "DEFINITIVE DIAGNOSIS". So? Gluten Challenge! Well, after merely a day and a half, I understand why it's called a "Challenge"!!!

I'm wondering if anyone has tips for dealing with any of the symptoms? The nausea seems to be the worst for me so far (haven't got to the big "D" yet...), along with a migraine, fogginess, anxiety, and fatigue.

If anyone found great ways to cope with the challenge...please...SHARE!!! :)

I have no suggestions, but I'm wondering why anyone feels they need a "definitive diagnosis"? seriously... if you feel good when you're off gluten and terrible when you're on it...well then why does it matter to you if you have a diagnosis? I'm using "you" in the general sense, not specifically to the OP. I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through this "challenge".

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Googles
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I have no suggestions, but I'm wondering why anyone feels they need a "definitive diagnosis"? seriously... if you feel good when you're off gluten and terrible when you're on it...well then why does it matter to you if you have a diagnosis? I'm using "you" in the general sense, not specifically to the OP. I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through this "challenge".

I don't know if this is why the OP is doing it, but, sometimes people need it for accommodations, like for school or work. Without an official diagnosis from a doctor they don't have to provide those. Also sometimes it is easier for people to stick to the diet when they have an official diagnosis as it is so challenging. It is easier for some people than trying to wonder if it could be something else possibly. Also sometimes family is more accepting with an official diagnosis, and don't question that it is "in the person's head".

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love2travel
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I have no suggestions, but I'm wondering why anyone feels they need a "definitive diagnosis"? seriously... if you feel good when you're off gluten and terrible when you're on it...well then why does it matter to you if you have a diagnosis? I'm using "you" in the general sense, not specifically to the OP. I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through this "challenge".

I put myself through the challenge because gluten did not make me sick at all. Nil. So, I truly did not believe I had celiac until the biopsies came back positive. So, I needed it to prove that I have the disease otherwise I likely would not have done anything about it. I frankly LOVED the challenge, getting to eat all the yummy gluten I wanted to for three whole months. I made a gigantic list of my favourites and crossed them off as I had them one last time. If I felt terrible on gluten it would likely be a very different story.

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healinginprogress Enthusiast
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Thank you for the responses! Now, I am not a quitter, so I feel a little like I "wimped out", but the intensity of my migraine the 3rd morning definitely changed my mind about the "challenge". I will call the doctor on Monday and see what he says. He did, after all, give me the option. And if I was asymptomatic then I could see staying on the challenge for sure. But I puked so many times yesterday that my throat is sore and that's just not healthy. The pain and the fatigue are not worth it, either. After they do the colonoscopy/endoscopy they are scheduling me for surgery, so I'm going to need to be as healthy as possible going into that. I think this is all the proof I need that I am indeed Celiac!

Why did I want the definitive diagnosis? I'm the type of person who needs to KNOW things. I thrive on information, numbers, facts...not so much theories and probabilities. I like certainty. I know life isn't about certainty, it's just what makes me comfortable. I feel weird saying I have Celiac Disease when I don't have the data to back it up, aside from a very positive blood test and very telling symptoms. I just graduated from university, so I guess I'm used to having to prove things.

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