Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Soy, Milk, Corn, Etc. Intolerances


pricklypear1971

Recommended Posts

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

Ok, here's a question....

It occurred to me that with the gluten thing it's better for me to have dinner parties at my house... And if I want to be fair I need to accommodate other food intolerances.

So, for those of you who know....are other intolerances as tough to work around as gluten? Would a milk, egg, soy, etc. intolerant person be able to eat food I cook (if I leave it out) or are there cc issues like for gluten?

Allergies are another story, I'd assume an allergy is more difficult than intolerance (if I used soy flour I'd assume a person with soy allergies wouldn't want to be in my house).


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



missmellie Newbie

To begin, I don't happen to know of a soy intolerance group, or a dairy intolerance group, etc., so perhaps my opinion is from a narrow viewpoint, since I read and participate in this gluten intolerance forum.

I do agree with your outlook that it might be easier (and it's certainly safer) to host a dinner party than to attend one someplace else. I do the same kind of thing with my family. So far, I'm the only one who is gluten-free, with meals or household environment.

The other items you mentioned (eggs, dairy, soy) I must avoid in addition to the gluten. I don't happen to know if a person needs to thoroughly scrub down to remove traces of these things from their kitchens. I haven't heard of it, but I suppose it's possible. I found out about all of my intolerances at about the same time, so probably the clearing out that I did for gluten most likely cleared out traces of those other things as well. There wasn't much left in my kitchen when I finished the purge!!! I don't think CC would be as much of a problem with the other things, mainly because they aren't usually finely ground, powdery, invasive, or glue-y (sticky), like gluten. They can cause discomfort when ingested, but I don't know of them causing actual physical damage to the body, like the gluten does (but I could be wrong about that).

As far as you cooking to avoid all of the above mentioned items, I find soy is at least as hard to avoid as gluten. The blasted stuff is in everything, and items that don't have gluten often have soy, and visa versa. If you find something that doesn't have gluten or soy, then it probably contains dairy, or egg. It's really difficult, unless you cook entirely from "scratch", as I almost always do.

There are decent substitutes for wheat flour, if one is willing to look a little and to cook from scratch. There are numerous substitutes for dairy. Substitutes for egg are not very good, in my humble opinion (they surely do not add egg taste and they aren't very good at adding egg texture, either). Very few scratch recipes call for soy (thank goodness!!).

This is probably more than you asked for. Enjoy being a hostess!! I would love to cook with you and trade dinner parties. :)

bartfull Rising Star

I don't know about anyone else, but I am so sensitive to corn that even one of those new plastic bottles that is made with a corn based plastic got me. And corn is even harder to avoid than gluten, for two reasons. First, it is cheap, so companies seem to add it to everything. And second, corn does not have to be listed in the ingredients the way wheat does here in the US.

But that being said, I'd be willing to bet that anyone who is that sensitive will bring their own food anyway. And since you are celiac, you would understand because you have had to do the same, I'm sure.

Hope you have a great time. Oh yeah, and you forgot to tell us when and where so we can all come! :lol:

cahill Collaborator

I am super sensitive to soy .Soy CC is a major issue for me.

I have reacted to soy free (and gluten free) products that were processed at a facility that process soy (but not gluten) so I am sure the CC came from soy not gluten.

I react to EVERYTHING with soy or soy oil in or even near it :ph34r:

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,937
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    VNelson
    Newest Member
    VNelson
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Marsh 3b is the Gold Standard of diagnosis for Celiac Disease.  Until recently, regardless of antibody tests, positive or negative, you had to have Marsh 3 damage to be awarded the diagnosis of Celiac. As I understand you,  you were having constant symptoms..  Your symptoms improved on GFD, with occassional flare ups. Did your doctor say you do and you are questioning the diagnosis? Regarding your increasing severity when you get glutened it is "normal.  Gluten acts on the Opiod receptors to numb your body.  Some report withdrawal symptoms on GFD.  I was an alcoholic for 30 years, about 1/2 pint of voda a day. Each time I identified a trigger and dealt with it, a new trigger would pop up.  Even a 30 day rehab stint, with a low fat diet (severe pancreatis) during which I rarely had cravings.  Stopped at a Wendys on the way home and the next day I was drinking again.  20 years later, sick as a dog, bedridden on Thanksgiving, after months of reasearch, I realized that gluten free was my Hail Mary.  Back in 1976 my son was diagnosed at weaning with Celiac Disease and his doctor suggested my wife and I should also be gluten free because it is genetic.  At 25 years old I felt no gastro problems and promised if I ever did I would try gluten free.  Well, I forgot that promise until I was 63.  Three days of gluten and alcohol free, I could no longer tolerate alcohol. Eleven years gluten and alcohol free, with no regrets. Improvement was quick, but always two steps forward and one back.  Over time I found nineteen symptoms that I had been living with for my entire life, that doctors had said, "We don't know why, but that is normal for some people". Celiac Disease causes multiple vitamin and mineral deficiency.  It is an autoimmune disease, meaning your immune system B and T cells create antibodies against ttg(2) the small intestin in Celiac Disease and sometimes ttg(3) in skin in Dermatitis Herpetiformus.  Why is poorly understood.  In fact, it wasn't even know that wheat, barley and rye gluten was the cause.  Celiac Disease was also called Infantilism, because it was deadly, and believed to only be a childhood disease. So as part of your symptoms you must deal with those deficiencies.  Especially vitamin D because it contols your immune system.  Virtually all newly diagnosed Celiacs have vitamin D deficiency.  There are about 30 vitamin and minerals that are absorbed in the small intestine.  With Marsh 3 damage you may be eating the amount everyone else does, but you are not absorbing them into your system, so you will display symptoms of their deficiency.   As time passes and you replenish your deficiencies you may notice other symptoms improve, some you did not even know were sypmptos. Our western diet has many deficiencies build into it.   That is the reason foods with gluten are fortified.  Gluten free processed food are not required to fortify.  Vitamin D, Iodine, choline.  The B vitamins, especially Thiamine (B1) run deficient quickly.  We only store enough thiamine for 2 weeks for symptoms can come on quickly.  Magnesium, zinc, etc. each having its own symptoms affecting multiple systems.  High homocystene, and indicator of vascular inflamation can be cause by deficient Choline, folate, B6 and or B12.  Brain fog, deficient choline, iodine, thiamine. Dietary intake of choline and phosphatidylcholine and risk of type 2 diabetes in men: The Kuopio Ischaemic Heart Disease Risk Factor Study    
    • Rogol72
      I cut out the rice because it was affecting my stomach at the time ... not necessarily dermatitis herpetiformis. It was Tilda Basmati Rice, sometimes wholegrain rice. I was willing to do whatever it took to heal. Too much fiber also disagrees with me as I have UC.
    • trents
      But you didn't answer my question. When you consume gluten, is there an identifiable reaction within a short period of time, say a few hours?
    • Scott Adams
      You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results, although it's not very common:  Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/  Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/  Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/   
    • Scott Adams
      I am only wondering why you would need to cut out rice? I've never heard of rice being any issue in those with DH.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.