Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Stomach Bug Or Gluten?

e&j0304

Recommended Posts

e&j0304 Enthusiast
e&j0304
Posted

I feel as though I'm goint to blame every thing that goes wrong with Ella on gluten!! :)

She had been doing SO well on this diet (it's been almost a month now) and then yesterday she was acting really cranky and irritable. She did say her tummy hurt. Today she has had loose stools 4 times and says her tummy still hurts. She is also saying she is hungry a lot today. Her symptoms pre-gluten-free diet were loose stools and an insatiable appetite (in addition to some other things).

So, did she accidentally get something in her system, or does she just have a stomach bug? My nephew has a stomach bug so I know it's maybe going around although we haven't been around him for several weeks.

I know I'll probably never know the answer and I'll probably always wonder everytime she gets sick!! I knew you would all understand how I feel!

Shannon

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Carriefaith Enthusiast
Carriefaith
Posted

My gluten symptoms can be a lot like the flu (brain fog, dizziness, fatigue, diarrhea, a general sick feeling). For me there are a few things that distinguish a gluten accident from the flu, maybe some of them would apply to your daughter.

- I break out in mosquito/chicken pox-like bumps on the skin.

- localized stomach pain (it is in the same spot everytime I get glutened)

- bloating

- bad gas

scaredparent Apprentice
scaredparent
Posted

My son has been gluten-free since Feb and when he gets glutten he gets big sores on his bottom and dh. He is also very fussy. When it is the flu he just get dh.

e&j0304 Enthusiast
e&j0304
Posted
  • Author

Thanks for the replies. I really don't know what she has...I guess it will be hard for me to tell just yet since we have not been gluten-free for very long.

Carrie, what kind of dog do you have? I'm asking because we just a King Shephard puppy. She is 3 months old. She is a pretty good little puppy most of the time, but has gone in the house 3 times today...

She hasn't chewed up too much! Anyway, just saw your dog and she looks a lot like mine.

Shannon

Guest taweavmo3
Guest taweavmo3
Posted

I can completely relate to this......Emmie did the same thing in the beginning of the new diet. It seemed like she was sicker than usual, and I was going nuts trying to figure out if it was gluten or a bug. Soon after starting the diet, Emmie seemed to pick up every bug possible. Before the diet, she may have looked deathly ill, but she hardly ever actually got sick with anything. This is just my little theory, but I think the initial stage of the diet put her body into a shock of some sort and made her more suseptible to bugs. For the first couple of months, she had several random fevers, and a few days of intense headaches and tummy pains. I clearly remember thinking how odd it was that she was so much sicker on the diet than off.......but something was working, b/c she was putting on weight and growing.

Then there was the one time I thought that she was having a definate gluten reaction, called every food company again to double check....and it turned out to be roseola! It's been nearly two months now though since she's had any sort of illness, and she seems stronger than ever. My son started school a couple of weeks ago, bringing home all sorts of little germies, and Emmie hasn't caught a thing. I think it just takes a while for their little bodies to adjust and build up their immune system again. The first few months are bumpy to say the least! Glad to hear Ella is still doing well......I love hearing her updates!

Carriefaith Enthusiast
Carriefaith
Posted
Carrie, what kind of dog do you have?
He is a German Shepard and he is the biggest baby :) He thinks he's a poodle.
e&j0304 Enthusiast
e&j0304
Posted
  • Author

Tamara,

Thanks for posting. I am still not sure what's wrong with Ella. Again today, she's just not herself. She hasn't had loose stools today, but is very moody and has been crying about eating all day. We have been on this diet for a month now and she was doing SO well and this just totally stinks. I guess we'll just keep going with it and hope that she gets back to where she was before. Now that I know how wonderful life with her can be, when we have a set back it seems worse than if it had just stayed bad. Hopefully that makes sense. It's kind of funny because when she was doing so well it made me realize how awful it really was before. Even though I knew she was sick and things weren't right, I guess when you're in the moment you don't always see things for what they are. Anyway, thanks for thinking of us. I hope little Emmie is doing well. :-)

Carrie,

Your dog is beautiful. I think ours thinks she's a lot smaller than she is too. I'm glad to see someone else who loves their Shepard. I'm so sick of everyone thinking that she's automatically going to be a mean dog because of her breed. I find that it's usually people who have never had one who think that. Usually people who have Shepards think they're the best dogs.

Thanks again,

Shannon

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Carriefaith Enthusiast
Carriefaith
Posted
Usually people who have Shepards think they're the best dogs.
I love shepards, they are people lovers and would do anything for their owners.
backwoodsmama Newbie
backwoodsmama
Posted

I can really sympathize with your worry - I have real gut-wrenching anxiety whenever my kids are up in the night crying (they're 1 and 4) wondering if it's teething pain, or a virus, or did I acccidentally feed them something with gluten in it? But my husband absolutely does not share ANY of my worry - just shrugs it off! I will spend hours going over everything they might have eaten in the past week which could have set off a reaction. Not him. Drives me crazy!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. xxnonamexx
      - xxnonamexx posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      0

      FDA looking for input on Celiac Gluten sensitivity labeling PLEASE READ and submit your suggestions

      Please read: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-steps-improve-gluten-ingredient-disclosure-foods?fbclid=IwY2xjawPeXhJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzaDc3NWRaYzlJOFJ4R0Fic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrwuSsw8Be7VNGOrKKWFVbrjmf59SGht05nIALwnjQ0DoGkDDK1doRBDzeeX_aem_GZcRcbhisMTyFUp3YMUU9Q
    2. cristiana
      - cristiana replied to Atl222's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Increased intraepithelial lymphocytes after 10 yrs gluten-free

      Hi @Atl222 As @trents points out, there could be many reasons for this biopsy result. I am interested to know, is your gastroenterologist concerned? Also, are your blood tests showing steady improvement over the years? I remember when I had my last biopsy, several years after diagnosis, mine came back with with raised lymphocytes but no villous...
    3. trents
      - trents replied to Atl222's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Increased intraepithelial lymphocytes after 10 yrs gluten-free

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Atl222! Yes, your increased lymphocytes could be in response to oats or it could possibly be cross contamination from gluten that is getting into your diet from some unexpected source but not enough to damage the villi. And I'm certain that increased lymphocytes can be caused by other things besides celiac disease...
    4. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to Aretaeus Cappadocia's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Brown Rice Vinegar (organic) from Eden Foods is likely gluten free

      This is a solid, well-reasoned approach. You’re right that “koji” by itself doesn’t indicate gluten status, and the risk really does come down to which grain is used to culture it. The fact that you directly contacted Eden Foods and received a clear statement that their koji is made from rice only, with no wheat or barley, is meaningful due diligence—especia...
    5. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to wellthatsfun's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      nothing has changed

      Seven months can still be early in celiac healing, especially if you were mostly asymptomatic to begin with—symptoms like low iron, vitamin D deficiency, nail changes, and hair issues often take much longer to improve because the gut needs time to recover before absorption normalizes. A tTG-IgA of 69 is not “low” in terms of immune activity, and it can t...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,190
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Atl222
    Newest Member
    Atl222
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      FDA looking for input on Celiac Gluten sensitivity labeling PLEASE READ and submit your suggestions

      By xxnonamexx · Posted

      Please read: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-steps-improve-gluten-ingredient-disclosure-foods?fbclid=IwY2xjawPeXhJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzaDc3NWRaYzlJOFJ4R0Fic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrwuSsw8Be7VNGOrKKWFVbrjmf59SGht05nIALwnjQ0DoGkDDK1doRBDzeeX_aem_GZcRcbhisMTyFUp3YMUU9Q
    • cristiana
      Increased intraepithelial lymphocytes after 10 yrs gluten-free

      By cristiana · Posted

      Hi @Atl222 As @trents points out, there could be many reasons for this biopsy result.  I am interested to know, is your gastroenterologist concerned?  Also, are your blood tests showing steady improvement over the years? I remember when I had my last biopsy, several years after diagnosis, mine came back with with raised lymphocytes but no villous damage, too! In my own case, my consultant wasn't remotely concerned - in fact, he said I might still get this result even if all I ever did was eat nothing but rice and water.   My coeliac blood tests were still steadily improving, albeit slowly, which was reassuring.
    • trents
      Increased intraepithelial lymphocytes after 10 yrs gluten-free

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Atl222! Yes, your increased lymphocytes could be in response to oats or it could possibly be cross contamination from gluten that is getting into your diet from some unexpected source but not enough to damage the villi. And I'm certain that increased lymphocytes can be caused by other things besides celiac disease or gluten/oats exposure. See attachment. But you might try eliminating oats to start with and possibly dairy for a few months and then seek another endoscopy/biopsy to see if there was a reduction in lymphocyte counts. 
    • Scott Adams
      Brown Rice Vinegar (organic) from Eden Foods is likely gluten free

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      This is a solid, well-reasoned approach. You’re right that “koji” by itself doesn’t indicate gluten status, and the risk really does come down to which grain is used to culture it. The fact that you directly contacted Eden Foods and received a clear statement that their koji is made from rice only, with no wheat or barley, is meaningful due diligence—especially since Eden has a long-standing reputation for transparency. While the lack of gluten labeling can understandably give pause, manufacturer confirmation like this is often what people rely on for traditionally fermented products. As always, trusting your body after trying it is reasonable, but based on the information you gathered, your conclusion makes sense.
    • Scott Adams
      nothing has changed

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      Seven months can still be early in celiac healing, especially if you were mostly asymptomatic to begin with—symptoms like low iron, vitamin D deficiency, nail changes, and hair issues often take much longer to improve because the gut needs time to recover before absorption normalizes. A tTG-IgA of 69 is not “low” in terms of immune activity, and it can take 12–24 months (sometimes longer) for antibodies and the intestinal lining to fully heal, particularly in teens and young adults. Eating gluten again to “test” things isn’t recommended and won’t give you clear answers—it’s far more likely to cause harm than clarity. Weight not changing is also very common in celiac and doesn’t rule anything out. Please know that your frustration and sadness matter; this adjustment is hard, and feeling stuck can really affect mental health. You deserve support, and if you can, reaching out to a GI dietitian or mental health professional familiar with chronic illness could really help you through this phase. This study indicates that a majority of celiacs don't recover until 5 years after diagnosis and starting a gluten-free diet: Mucosal recovery and mortality in adults with celiac disease after treatment with a gluten-free diet However, it's also possible that what the study really shows is the difficulty in maintaining a 100% gluten-free diet. I suspect that if you looked closely at the diets of those who did not recover within 2 years might be that their diets were not 100% gluten-free. Perhaps they ate out more often, or didn't understand all of the hidden ingredients where gluten can hide. Either way, it shows how difficult recovery from celiac disease can be for most people. According to this study: This article explores other causes of flattened villi:    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.