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Please Help! Good Food To Have During The Gluten.casein Withdrawals?

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lifenadlight Newbie
lifenadlight
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I could really do with some help :) please...

I can't find anywhere on the internet where anyone suggests helpful foods during the gluten and casein withdrawals. my boyfriend is going through the casein withrawals at the moment, only 3 days in :( so at least 3 weeks to go.... just figured out that that has been the thing doing him in, as well as gluten and wheat of course (bit of a mine field) now i cant believe i didn't realise earlier. he's been glutened over and over by phony "gluten free" products and all of that, that apparently arent actually reliable, again only just found out. i feel like its an endless cycle of doom and no end in sight, its been almost a year since the first gluten withdrawals! he's horribly depressed as well as all the other physical symptoms and i'm so worried about giving him food that'll agravate the symptoms, any help would be really appreciated. thanks in advance :)

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ravenwoodglass Mentor
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Go with fresh whole homecooked foods. Meat and potatoes, fish, chicken, fruit and veggies etc. I am curious what gluten free foods he having problems with? For some of us stuff like soy or bean flour can be a problem leading us to think we are reacting to gluten when we really aren't.

Tell us what his favorite foods are and maybe someone can be a bit more helpful on that end.

I noticed you are new to the board. Welcome and do read as much as you can here as there is much more to the gluten free lifestyle than just food. For example you need to make sure your lipsticks etc are gluten free and if you are a gluten eater you need to brush your teeth before you kiss. There are many things that the doctors don't tell us when we are first diagnosed which can keep us ill longer.

robertwilburn35 Newbie
robertwilburn35
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I can't explain everything but I do know my body reacts more or less violently to different types of gluten. I am not sure of all of them but soy dosn't usually bother me too much. Wheat and barley will have me laid up for days.

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