Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Testing Accurate?


TammyTE

Recommended Posts

TammyTE Apprentice

I asked this question on a site for kids with allergies but I am now understanding that celiac is not an allergy.(?) So I will post here to see if someone can help me. :) I have five children and have had two tesed for food allergies using the IgG/IgE antibody blood test. I'll bold the gluten part for you all here. I would like to know if this test could be at all accurate or if I should take my children elsewhere. Thanks so much!

~Tammy

My 2yo dd is my child that has the following symptoms:

peanuts/peanut butter - any part of her body that touches it gets red welts

beans - I'm pretty sure beans give her horrible diarrhea that makes her bottom bleed.

eggs - a bite of an egg gives hives all over her body, if she eats something with egg in it she gets eczema on her outer elbows and over her entire leg and also gets nasty poop that burns her bottom.

We were grain free for about 10 months and then started when she was a little over 1yo so she really only had some pasta and bread a few times before we went grain free. Since going back on grains her skin did get much worse but I attributed it eating things with egg in it. Her skin is beautiful now! Her poop is okay except for when we had chili. I have been thinking it was the beans that gave her trouble and her test does show high sensitivity to kidney beans but we also put pasta in our chili so maybe that's the problem.?

Those are all the things I have noticed. She had a blood test with a Nurse Practitioner that says she specializes in food allergies that a friend suggested. I am questioning the validity of the tests. It was an IgG/IgE Food Antibody Assessment. It shows she is allergic to egg whites on the IgE test but peanuts do not show as an allergy. They do show as a high sensitivity on the IgG part of the test.

There is a page in the paperwork that says "Celiac & Gluten Sensitivity". Here's exactly how it reads:

Biomarkers

Total IgA = 68 (Sufficient)

Anti-Tissue Transglutamanase IgA (tTG IgA) = <1.2 (Negative)

Anti-Deamidated Gliadin IgA (DGP IgA) = 2 (Negative)

Anti-Gliadin IgA (AGA IgA) = 3 (Negative)

Anti-Gliadin IgG (AGA IgG) = 34 (Strong Positive)

Interpretation: Patient results are consistent with Gluten Sensivitiy.

Then there is this chart at the bottom of the page that takes all the negatives and positives from above and you follow the flow through the chart. Since her tTG iGA and DGP IgA are both negative it says she is not celiac but because her AGA IgG/IgA is positive she has gluten sensitivity. They said because the number is such a "strong positive" I should treat her as if she was celiac. That because she is so young that it may not show up on the test but she really could be.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Mperkins1224 Newbie

My battery is dying but, inreber in 06 when I was tested I was considered a gluten sensitive category.... I only felt better when I was 100% gluten-free now 6 almost 7 yrs later I'm going casein free as well. It can't do any harm but make her feel better, it's extremely hard at first but I promise is gets better. I'd look into getting everyone tested... It's generally healthier yet expensive. Happy new year!

nvsmom Community Regular

I would say, based on her AGA IgG, that she is a celiac and does not just have a gluten sensitivity. That means that she has an autoimmune disease, which she will not grow out of, which causes her body to attack her small intestine when gluten is eaten (it acts like a a trigger). If she does not eat gluten, her body will not produce the autoantibodies that damage her upper small intestine.

Many small children will not have a positive test even if they have celiac because they do not have enough damage being done yet to produce a positive test (or so the theory goes). That she had a positive test at age two is unusual, and could be an indicator that she has had celiac since babyhood. :(

It's wonderful that you've found this so early on so you can remove the gluten and prevent damaging inflammation and possibly prevent or slow the development of other autoimmune diseases or health problems. Celiac disease can cause horrible rashes on some people (Dermatitis Herpetiformis or dh for short). It is frequently mistaken for eczema; hopefully it will resolve for your daughter on a gluten-free diet.

celiac disease is genetically linked, so you might want to have all of of your kids tested (and you and your spouse), and even have a gluten-free trial of a few months. My 3 boys tested negative for celiac but we made them gluten-free anyways. Two of my boys have shown real health improvements on the gluten-free diet so we're keeping the whole family gluten-free... Wheat is so genetically modified from what our great grandparents were eating, that I think it's for the best to get it out of their diet regardless.

Best wishes to you and you daughter. I hope she is symptom free very soon. :)

TammyTE Apprentice

I would say, based on her AGA IgG, that she is a celiac and does not just have a gluten sensitivity. That means that she has an autoimmune disease, which she will not grow out of, which causes her body to attack her small intestine when gluten is eaten (it acts like a a trigger). If she does not eat gluten, her body will not produce the autoantibodies that damage her upper small intestine.

Many small children will not have a positive test even if they have celiac because they do not have enough damage being done yet to produce a positive test (or so the theory goes). That she had a positive test at age two is unusual, and could be an indicator that she has had celiac since babyhood. :(

It's wonderful that you've found this so early on so you can remove the gluten and prevent damaging inflammation and possibly prevent or slow the development of other autoimmune diseases or health problems. Celiac disease can cause horrible rashes on some people (Dermatitis Herpetiformis or dh for short). It is frequently mistaken for eczema; hopefully it will resolve for your daughter on a gluten-free diet.

celiac disease is genetically linked, so you might want to have all of of your kids tested (and you and your spouse), and even have a gluten-free trial of a few months. My 3 boys tested negative for celiac but we made them gluten-free anyways. Two of my boys have shown real health improvements on the gluten-free diet so we're keeping the whole family gluten-free... Wheat is so genetically modified from what our great grandparents were eating, that I think it's for the best to get it out of their diet regardless.

Best wishes to you and you daughter. I hope she is symptom free very soon. :)

Thank you both!

We were grain free for about 10 months and I saw great results with others in the family. We weren't really watching for cross contamination but probably didn't get much with the whole foods diet we were following. So I am used to this type of meal plan. I just got burnt out and was unsure if I was doing the right thing for my family. Lots of naysayers in my extended family saying I'm the crazy mom that doesn't give her kids fun foods. That's one of the reasons I had the test done. The other reason was that she was reacting to eggs and peanuts and she still doesn't talk much. I wasn't sure if I would know if anything was majorly wrong with her.

I have an appt with a pediatric GI doctor in a couple weeks for her and my son. My other kids will be tested soon! :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,555
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Laura65
    Newest Member
    Laura65
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      I think, after reading this, that you areso traumatized by not being able yo understand what your medical advisors have been  what medical conditions are that you would like to find a group of people who also feel traumatized who would agree with you and also support you. You are on a crusade much as the way the US Cabinet  official, the Health Director of our nation is in trying to change what he considers outdated and incorrect health advisories. He does not have the education, background or experience to be in the position he occupies and is not making beneficial decisions. That man suffered a terrible trauma early in his life when his father was assonated. We see now how he developed and worked himself into a powerful position.  Unless you are willing to take some advice or  are willing to use a few of the known methods of starting on a path to better health then not many of us on this Celiac Forum will be able to join you in a continuing series of complaints about medical advisors.    I am almost 90 years old. I am strictly gluten free. I use 2 herbs to help me stay as clear minded as possible. You are not wrong in complaining about medical practitioners. You might be more effective with a clearer mind, less anger and a more comfortable life if you would just try some of the suggestions offered by our fellow celiac volunteers.  
    • Jmartes71
      Thus has got to STOP , medical bit believing us! I literally went through 31 years thinking it was just a food allergy as its downplayed by medical if THEY weren't the ones who diagnosed us! Im positive for HLA-DQ2 which is first celiac patient per Iran and Turkey. Here in the States especially in Cali its why do you feel that way? Why do you think your celiac? Your not eating gluten so its something else.Medical caused me depression. I thought I was safe with my former pcp for 25 years considering i thought everything I went through and going through will be available when I get fired again for health. Health not write-ups my health always come back when you're better.Im not and being tossed away at no fault to my own other than shitty genes.I was denied disability because person said he didn't know how to classify me! I said Im celiac, i have ibs, hernia, sciatica, high blood pressure, in constant pain have skin and eye issues and menopause intensified everything. With that my celiac nightmare began to reprove my disregarded disease to a bunch of clowns who think they are my careteam when they said I didn't have...I feel Im still breathing so I can fight this so no body else has to deal with this nightmare. Starting over with " new care team" and waisting more time on why I think I am when diagnosed in 1994 before food eliminated from my diet. P.s everything i went through I did write to medical board, so pretty sure I will continue to have a hard time.
    • knitty kitty
      @Scatterbrain, Thiamine Vitamin B1 and amino acid Taurine work together.  Our bodies can make Taurine from meats consumed.  Our bodies cannot make Thiamine and must consume thiamine from food.  Meat is the best source of B vitamins like Thiamine.   Vegetarians may not make sufficient taurine since they don't eat meat sources of taurine.  Seaweed is the best vegetarian source of taurine. Vegetarians may not consume sufficient Thiamine since few veggies are good sources.  Whole grains, legumes, and nuts and seeds contain thiamine.  Many of these sources can be hard to digest and absorb for people with Celiac disease.   You may find taking the forms of thiamine called Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and a B Complex will give the benefits you're looking for better than taurine alone.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I went to Doterra's site and had a look around.  The Doterra TerraZyme supplement really jumped out at me.  Since we, as Celiacs, often have digestive problems, I looked at the ingredients.  The majority of the enzymes in this supplement are made using black mold, Aspergillus!  Other enzymes are made by yeast Saccharomyces!  Considering the fact that Celiac often have permeable intestines (leaky gut syndrome), I would be very hesitant to take a product like this.  Although there may not be live black mold or yeast in the product, the enzymes may still cause an immune system response which would definitely cause inflammation throughout the body.   Skin, eyes, and intestines are all made from the same basic type of cells.  Your skin on the outside and eyes can reflect how irritated the intestines are on the inside.  Our skin, eyes, and intestines all need the same vitamins and nutrients to be healthy:  Vitamin A, Niacin B3 and Tryptophan, Riboflavin B2, Biotin B7, Vitamin C, and Omega Threes.  Remember that the eight B vitamins work together.  Just taking high doses of just one, vitamin like B12, can cause a deficiency in the others.  Taking high doses of B12 can mask a Folate B9 deficiency.  If you take B12, please take a B Complex, too.  Thiamine B1 can be taken in high doses safely without toxicity.  Thiamine is needed by itself to produce energy so every cell in the body can function, but Thiamine also works with the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes and digestive enzymes.  Deficiencies in either Niacin, Vitamin C, or Thiamine can cause digestive problems resulting in Pellagra, Scurvy, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi.   If you change your diet, you will change your intestinal microbiome.  Following the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a Paleo diet, will starve out SIBO bacteria.  Thiamine keeps bacteria in check so they don't get out of control as in SIBO.  Thiamine also keeps MOLDS and Yeasts from overgrowth.   Menopause symptoms and menstrual irregularities are symptomatic of low Vitamin D.   Doctors are not as knowledgeable about malnutrition as we need them to be.  A nutritionist or dietician would be more helpful.   Take control of your diet and nutrition.  Quit looking for a pill that's going to make you feel better overnight.  The Celiac journey is a marathon, not a sprint.   "Let food be your medicine, and let medicine be your food."
    • RUKen
      The Lindt (Lindor) dairy-free oat milk truffles are definitely gluten-free, and (last time I checked) so are the white chocolate truffles and the mint chocolate truffles. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.