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Dh As An Indicator Of Gluten Ingestion?

zamm0

By zamm0
in Dermatitis Herpetiformis

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zamm0 Apprentice
zamm0
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Same as the title really....can DH flare-ups be a signal that the body has recently taken in gluten, however small? As per here: Open Original Shared Link

FWIW - I've had DH for a couple of years now and found that elocon seems to dampen it down quite well. I tend to use it very sparingly. Lately I'm experimenting with not using the elocon to see if it goes on it's own.

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texas flood Newbie
texas flood
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I don't know. From what I've read here, Iodine can trigger it. So that could be it as well.

squirmingitch Veteran
squirmingitch
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zamm0, Yes, it can be a sign of having recently taken in gluten. I would say especially if you have been gluten-free for a couple of years & have not had any dh outbreaks in at least several months. If you are under the 2 year mark then it's possible that it's just a "spontaneous outbreak" which can also happen any time until all the antibodies are out of our skin.

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sharese28 Apprentice
sharese28
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I'm going through that right now recently diagnosed and i've developed these skin rashes on my face back neck etc :angry: after going gluten free don't know if i've ingested gluten unintentionally or if it's my body trying to get everything out of my system.

squirmingitch Veteran
squirmingitch
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I'm going through that right now recently diagnosed and i've developed these skin rashes on my face back neck etc :angry: after going gluten free don't know if i've ingested gluten unintentionally or if it's my body trying to get everything out of my system.

That's almost impossible to say for sure. Only you would be able to tell.......maybe......  And that's also why it's soooooooo important to make absolute, for sure, no doubt about it positive, that you are not getting the slightest amount of gluten.

pricklypear1971 Community Regular
pricklypear1971
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Same as the title really....can DH flare-ups be a signal that the body has recently taken in gluten, however small? As per here: Open Original Shared Link

FWIW - I've had DH for a couple of years now and found that elocon seems to dampen it down quite well. I tend to use it very sparingly. Lately I'm experimenting with not using the elocon to see if it goes on it's own.

Elocon is a topical steroid.

 

My experience was even after weaning off of my topical, and using barely enough to dampen the tip of a qtip, when I finally went cold turkey for a few days....whammo. Outbreak.

 

So, I wouldn't assume you've ingested gluten if you're weaning off. I'd assume you're going through that typical steroid withdrawal bounce-back.

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koalbish Newbie
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Every time I get contaminated with gluten I flare up and it takes weeks to go away. It mostly happens when I eat out and I think the food is safe.

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That's why I refuse to eat out no matter how safe one might think it may be. The only way to be sure is to be in total control of all your own food. With the outbreaks I get there is NO WAY I'm taking any chances until all the antibodies have gotten out of my skin.

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