Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Still Confused About Test Results


hpymomof3

Recommended Posts

hpymomof3 Rookie

My 14 year old was recently diagnosed as gluten intolerant by Enterolab. I'm a bit confused because her blood test came up negative. She has been several different doctors due to health problems and some say that she isn't gluten intolerant unless the blood test is positive. Several people have told me that if you don't have Celiac then you aren't gluten intolerant. My understanding is that Celiac is just when the intolerance has caused damage to your intestines.

My daughter's results showed antigliadin IgA antibody was elevated. She does not have high enough intestinal IgA antibodies to show an autoimmune reaction, which is strange because she has autoimmune symptoms. She also had a positive genetic test which shows that she has the gene predisposing her to both Celiac and gluten insensitivity.

I truly believe that my daughter is sensitive to gluten but I'm trying to figure out an explanation to tell other people how she can be gluten insensitive but not Celiac.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



sunnybabi1986 Contributor

As far as I know (which isn't much!), I was under the impression that gluten intolerance is when your body produces a reaction to the presence of gluten, making you sick. Celiac disease is the point at which the villi in the intestines are actually damaged and it is visible. I may be wrong, correct me if I am, but this is what I had read awhile back. I would tell people that your daughter tested positive to having an intolerance to gluten through lab work. Hopefully that will be enough to convince them? Good luck!

Jestgar Rising Star

The blood tests won't be positive until you have done sufficient damage to your intestines. You can have symptoms before you are sick enough to have a positive blood test.

  • 1 month later...
hpymomof3 Rookie

Now people (doctors and others) are questioning whether or not the stool test is sufficient proof.

Jean'sBrainonGluten Newbie

Hi I was watching a good video on youtube about celiac.

It's a recording of a presentation by the William K. Warren Medical Research Center for Celiac Disease. In it the director, Martin F. Kagnoff, M.D., talks about different sensitivities to gluten

Celiac - classically the symptoms of intestinal damage and associated diarrhea, nutritional deficiencies, bloating, headaches, and failure to thrive in kids. In this case the blood tests will show high IgA unless there is a deficiency of overall IgA, which has to be tested for. There is also cryptic celiac with few or no symptoms, possibly negative labs and intestinal biopsy. If you did a genetic study these people have the markers though. According to a Mayo study some kind of damage is still happening because people with this kind die earlier than people without any response. Also, lab tests and even intestinal biopsy will be negative if the person has been on a gluten free diet.

Then there is Gluten sensitivity - same symptoms as classical celiac - gas, abdominal bloating and discomfort, diarrhea, headaches and so on, but blood tests are negative. He says at the end in the question time that since gluten molecules are huge it could just be a reaction to a different part of the molecule and wouldn't show with the standard tests. From the doctor's point of view they want to do all the tests including a gluten challenge of two months on gluten then repeating the blood work and intestinal biopsy. The treatment is just gluten dietary avoidance.

Finally he talks about wheat allergy which can be a reaction to other parts of the gluten molecules or other parts of wheat or can be mediated by a different part of the immune system - IgE or T cells. Again as doctors they'd like patients to do the full gluten challenge and testing but the treatment is dietary avoidance. The most dangerous type of this can produce anaphylactic shock in people who exercise after wheat ingestion (!).

Long story short...no test is definitive for all kinds of gluten or wheat reactions. Hope that is helpful.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,438
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    rednecksurfer
    Newest Member
    rednecksurfer
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      In the U.S., most regular wheat breads are required to be enriched with certain B-vitamins and iron, but gluten-free breads are not required to be. Since many gluten-free products are not enriched, we usually encourage people with celiac disease to consider a multivitamin.  In the early 1900s, refined white flour replaced whole grains, and people began developing serious vitamin-deficiency diseases: Beriberi → caused by a lack of thiamin (vitamin B1) Pellagra → caused by a lack of niacin (vitamin B3) Anemia → linked to low iron and lack of folate By the 1930s–40s, these problems were common in the U.S., especially in poorer regions. Public-health officials responded by requiring wheat flour and the breads made from it to be “enriched” with thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, and iron. Folic acid was added later (1998) to prevent neural-tube birth defects. Why gluten-free bread isn’t required to be enriched? The U.S. enrichment standards were written specifically for wheat flour. Gluten-free breads use rice, tapioca, corn, sorghum, etc.—so they fall outside that rule—but they probably should be for the same reason wheat products are.
    • Scott Adams
      Keep in mind that there are drawbacks to a formal diagnosis, for example more expensive life and private health insurance, as well as possibly needing to disclose it on job applications. Normally I am in favor of the formal diagnosis process, but if you've already figured out that you can't tolerate gluten and will likely stay gluten-free anyway, I wanted to at least mention the possible negative sides of having a formal diagnosis. While I understand wanting a formal diagnosis, it sounds like she will likely remain gluten-free either way, even if she should test negative for celiac disease (Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If her symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet, it would likely signal NCGS).        
    • JoJo0611
    • deanna1ynne
      Thank you all so much for your advice and thoughts. We ended up having another scope and more bloodwork last week. All serological markers continue to increase, and the doc who did the scope said there villous atrophy visible on the scope — but we just got the biopsy pathology report back, and all it says is, “Duodenal mucosa with patchy increased intraepithelial lymphocytes, preserved villous architecture, and patchy foveolar metaplasia,” which we are told is still inconclusive…  We will have her go gluten free again anyway, but how soon would you all test again, if at all? How valuable is an official dx in a situation like this?
    • cristiana
      Thanks for this Russ, and good to see that it is fortified. I spend too much time looking for M&S gluten-free Iced Spiced Buns to have ever noticed this! That's interesting, Scott.  Have manufacturers ever said why that should be the case?  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.