Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

2-Year-Old Just Diagnosed


bennett'smom

Recommended Posts

bennett'smom Newbie

My 2-year-old son was recently tested (after failure to thrive, speech delays, and other symptoms) and his bloodwork came back with "positive antibodies." His pedi referred us to a Celiac Center at our children's hospital, but told us that my son has not been officially diagnosed. I am holding out a little hope that he may not have it, but after some Internet research, it's looking like he almost certainly does have Celiac. His bloodwork is as follows:

IgA: 40 (negative)

IgG: 38.8 (positive)

EMA Titer: 1:40 (positive)

From what I have read, a positive EMA titer (no matter how low the number) is almost certainly celiac. Is this true? My son can't get an appointment with the GI specialist until next week, and I am trying to prepare myself as best I can. I am ready to tackle this challenge if I need to, but if there is a possibility of him not actually having it, I would rather wait to order books, start buying gluten-free, telling friends & family, etc.

Any advice on the bloodwork is greatly appreciated! And thank you so much for everything I have learned already from this forum!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



shadowicewolf Proficient

What were the ranges for those numbers? Did he have a total IGA ran as well? Or were those tests the only ones done?

bennett'smom Newbie

I'm having a hard time deciphering the test results, but it looks like it might be:

Total IgA: 40. (Range 21-150)

Deamidated Ab, IgA: <10 (range <20)

Deamidated Ab, IgG: 38.8 (range <20)

Emdomysial ABTiter: 1:40

His AST level was also high, at 49 (with a range of 15-35).

Thanks!

nvsmom Community Regular

His EMA titre was the same as mine.... After thirty odd years undiagnosed. :( Both tests have a specificity of over 90% so i think that a diagnosis is fairly certain with those two positive tests. The DGP IgG is very sensitive and specific... I think it is time to start buying gluten-free.

Best wishes. I hope the transition goes well.

mommida Enthusiast

Sounds like your son will have an endoscopy with biopsy for gold standard diagnoses. Keep his normal diet. Until after the scope.

Takala Enthusiast

Look at the bright side.  You will put him on a gluten free diet, and after a short adjustment period figuring out the details, your son will have a "normal" life, other than he won't be eating gluten.  You will have stopped the auto immune reaction going on inside of him early, before there was a lot of damage.   He should gain weight and height, his speech should improve, he won't have severe learning disabilities, etc. If one had to select an auto immune disease, this is the one to get, because the symptoms can be controlled by diet change.  

 

They (researchers) are also working on various medical treatments that may be available within a decade.  But the diet is fairly easy, compared to a lifetime of sickness.

 

Now, two things.  One, in a small percentage of children, there is not enough damage yet in the intestines, so they do not have a positive celiac biopsy which goes along with the positive celiac bloodwork.  Some doctors will then announce that There Is No Celiac Diagnosis Here, and try to toss you into "undiagnosed land."   Save your kid and put him on that gluten free diet anyway, and note how he reacts to it.  Does he thrive ?  (he should, with those blood tests....)  Then petition for them to acknowledge this.  There is this whole cottage industry of docs trying to convince people that living on pharma medications while eating the food which causes antibodies and gut damage is a normal behavior.  It isn't. 

 

Second, those common genes for celiac are carried by about 30% of the population.  And your child got them from somebody, so you may as well get yourself and any other first degree relatives tested, while you're at it.  And you may get surprised when and if you start mentioning this to friends and acquaintances, because you probably know a few celiacs or gluten intolerants already, and don't realize it.  I ran into another person last week who asked "are you... ?" and I said "yup!" and she said "oh, cool, I mean ... oh, not cool, uh, I mean I totally get this, me too !" and we both ended up laughing really hard.   :lol:

Cara in Boston Enthusiast

Definitely take this as good news.  My guy was not diagnosed until age 5.  He went to Early Intervention for speech delays, had enough "odd" tendencies (arm flapping, little eye contact, easily agitated, etc.) that he was tested for ASD every single year - but never quite fit the description.  After a sudden behavior change (tantrums, meltdowns, etc.) we took him to the doctor and she tested him for celiac.  

 

Once he was gluten free it was like we had a brand new kid.  Happy, calm, confident, focused, chatty.  He shot up three inches within weeks.  Slept better, ate better, everything was better. 

 

The diet seems overwhelming at first, but once you figure out what you like, it is pretty easy.  Our whole house is gluten free and everyone eats a healthier diet because of it.

 

cara


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,332
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nicolah
    Newest Member
    Nicolah
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.