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Candida The Cause?

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KatieFacey Newbie
KatieFacey
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Does anyone know if there is any research being conducted on the connection between candidiasis and celiac disease?  I was reading about how the proteins in gluten are very similar to the proteins in the cell walls of candida yeast and I was wondering if perhpas the body was being tricked into rejecting gluten because it thought it was yeast overgrowth?  If our bodies were trying to protect us from further overgrowth, they might produce an immune reaction to signal us that something was making the yeast worse.  In the case of food, this signal could be foods that are very similar in structure to yeast.  I have been doing a lot of reading and many of the diseases and disorders associated with Celiac seem to be attributable to yeast ovrgrowth as well.  I've looked for info regarding current research studies that might be looking at this but I can't find any.  Most of the research to date only indicated that having Celiac shows a higher incidence rate of getting yeast overgrowth, but nothing to suggest the opposite.

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cyclinglady Grand Master
cyclinglady
Posted

Katie,

 

Sounds pretty interesting.  I was severely ill some 15 years ago with Candida after taking antibiotics for two years (yes, prescribed by an MD).  Found another MD who was able to treat me with diet and anti-fungals.  Took two years to get well.  Developed Hashi's and food allergies during that time.  Fifteen years later, celiac disease!  Maybe there is a connection.  

Miss-Marie Rookie
Miss-Marie
Posted

I'm sure there is a connection too - I believe I have Celiac and am currently waiting for the biopsy results and I also have thrush that I've had for about 2 years, no medicines have worked. I wish the medical profession would do more research on this because I'm sure this is more than just a coincidence, also I have other members of my family who have thrush that doesn't go away - could be genetics too? and that side of my family is also Irish lol, I've heard that are connections between being Irish and Celiac :)

peeptoad Apprentice
peeptoad
Posted

I suspect there may be a connection as well, and I am only diagnosed NCGI (not celiac disease). I am currently battling this myself (was taking enteric peppermint, which didn't seem to be enough and just switch to the garlic capsules). I was also diagnosed SIBO a few years ago and have been on about 4 rounds of antibiotics since, which helped with the SIBO, but also probably put me at risk for candida overgrowth.

 

 

I also had heart palpitations (going on 5 years or so with those and they got MUCH worse in the last year) and a naturopath advised me to start taurine supplements because apparently the yeast depletes this amino... and bingo! Heart palps are completely gone.

 

Good luck getting a conventional doc to recognize candida overgrowth though... my GI doc didn't take me seriously and he was one who DXed the SIBO. :(

pricklypear1971 Community Regular
pricklypear1971
Posted

They know there's a link, they don't know why - other than gluten intolerance screws everything up.Any research is encouraging.

glutenfree7562 Newbie
glutenfree7562
Posted

I found this article that directly states at the end of paragraph two that celiac can be causes by candida. I am pretty darn interested in this connection and plan on bringing it up with the doctors I am seeing next week at Mayo Clinic! 

 

Open Original Shared Link

 

 

I also found this article about Autism and Candida where it mentions celiac, and how a mother having celiac can increase a child likelihood of having autism. Its really an interesting read, hope you enjoy :)

 

Open Original Shared Link

foam Apprentice
foam
Posted

The Immune condition I have "Kimura's" disease is supposedly caused by a hyper sensitivity to candida, that's just a theory of some immunologist but it's not provable and officially the cause is unknown.

 

However during allergy testing the only notable reaction I had to anything was to candida and the test site got worse and worse and worse each day until it was a scar a week later.

 

I don't have any noticeable candida infection but I guess because of a highly leaky gut I've developed a huge immune reaction to trace amounts of candida. Now the real mystery is, did the immune reaction to the candida cause the celiac disease or did the celiac disease cause gut damage which caused the immune response to candida. In Kimura's disease apart from the inflammation and "tumourising" of the lymph glands, which is caused by the general inflammation of the body. There's usually kidney damage which is progressive until they fail. My theory about that is that the proteins/struture of candida is similar to kidney tissue but I can't prove this since I'm no scientist.

 

I know doctors wont usually pin any serious disease on candida but in my case everything points to it so they have no choice. I can triple the tumour in my neck on command with a week long course of metronidazole, which is something I've had to do to calm down sibo.... and it totally works against sibo but it just proves that as soon as the candida gets going, my immune system goes off it's nut. I can't take long term anti fungals because my kidneys wont take it, well not harsh ones anyway. I really should have some Natamycin and take it everyday but it's very illusive and hard to obtain.

 

My doctor actually said a while ago, they say candida isn't a problem and it's harmless but clearly if you have a damaged gut it can be a serious problem

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peeptoad Apprentice
peeptoad
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The Immune condition I have "Kimura's" disease is supposedly caused by a hyper sensitivity to candida, that's just a theory of some immunologist but it's not provable and officially the cause is unknown.

 

However during allergy testing the only notable reaction I had to anything was to candida and the test site got worse and worse and worse each day until it was a scar a week later.

 

I don't have any noticeable candida infection but I guess because of a highly leaky gut I've developed a huge immune reaction to trace amounts of candida. Now the real mystery is, did the immune reaction to the candida cause the celiac disease or did the celiac disease cause gut damage which caused the immune response to candida. In Kimura's disease apart from the inflammation and "tumourising" of the lymph glands, which is caused by the general inflammation of the body. There's usually kidney damage which is progressive until they fail. My theory about that is that the proteins/struture of candida is similar to kidney tissue but I can't prove this since I'm no scientist.

 

I know doctors wont usually pin any serious disease on candida but in my case everything points to it so they have no choice. I can triple the tumour in my neck on command with a week long course of metronidazole, which is something I've had to do to calm down sibo.... and it totally works against sibo but it just proves that as soon as the candida gets going, my immune system goes off it's nut. I can't take long term anti fungals because my kidneys wont take it, well not harsh ones anyway. I really should have some Natamycin and take it everyday but it's very illusive and hard to obtain.

 

My doctor actually said a while ago, they say candida isn't a problem and it's harmless but clearly if you have a damaged gut it can be a serious problem

Have you tried Kyolic garlic for the candida? I don't like the idea of long-term prescription anti-fungals either, but the garlic does seem to be helping. I am even going through a mild herxheimer reaction due to the die off symptoms of the yeast (bloating, borborygmus and last night out of nowhere a raging headache).

cyclinglady Grand Master
cyclinglady
Posted

Have you tried Kyolic garlic for the candida? I don't like the idea of long-term prescription anti-fungals either, but the garlic does seem to be helping. I am even going through a mild herxheimer reaction due to the die off symptoms of the yeast (bloating, borborygmus and last night out of nowhere a raging headache).

Garlic can be good.  I was eating and taking it in supplement form as well as eating copious amounts of plain yogurt to combat candida prior to getting a diagnosis from an MD.  However, I ended up developing or already had allergies to garlic and milk proteins which have never gone away.  Die-off, although uncomfortable (or painful) is tough to work through.  The good news is that I did recover completely.  Good luck.  

peeptoad Apprentice
peeptoad
Posted

Garlic can be good.  I was eating and taking it in supplement form as well as eating copious amounts of plain yogurt to combat candida prior to getting a diagnosis from an MD.  However, I ended up developing or already had allergies to garlic and milk proteins which have never gone away.  Die-off, although uncomfortable (or painful) is tough to work through.  The good news is that I did recover completely.  Good luck.  

I don't mind the die off symptoms so much if it means that the garlic supps are actually working. I can hang for a few days not feeling all that great if it means I'll feel much better in the future.

Good to hear you recovered well using the garlic. I don't eat a whole lot of fresh garlic, even though I don't seem to have much problems with FODMAPS (wheat/gluten aside). I figured the capsules would be more concentrated and anyway they don't leave any odor afterwards. :)

cyclinglady Grand Master
cyclinglady
Posted

I don't mind the die off symptoms so much if it means that the garlic supps are actually working. I can hang for a few days not feeling all that great if it means I'll feel much better in the future.

Good to hear you recovered well using the garlic. I don't eat a whole lot of fresh garlic, even though I don't seem to have much problems with FODMAPS (wheat/gluten aside). I figured the capsules would be more concentrated and anyway they don't leave any odor afterwards. :)

Sorry, I didn't communicate the fact that garlic and the garlic supplements I took were NOT good for me nor did they cure candida in my case.  Besides a sugar restricted diet, food rotation (for the allergies), my MD prescribed anti-fungals which I took for months.  

 

I hope the garlic works out for you!   :)

CaliSparrow Collaborator
CaliSparrow
Posted

I just read this article this week: Open Original Shared Link

Dr. Fasano: "We were under the impression that the recipe for Celiac disease was pretty much known to us. You have to be born with the genes, you have to eat gluten, and that will cause Celiac disease. Then we realized that was not the case. I mentioned that we’re in the midst of an epidemic of Celiac disease. We found people who were able to eat gluten for 30, 40, 50 years without any problems and now all of a sudden they lost that capability to tolerate gluten and developed Celiac disease even in their 70s. What were the tricks these people had that allowed them to tolerate gluten for so long and what happened to cause the switch from tolerance to the immune response? Among all of the possible causes a change to the gut bacteria seems to be the most likely.

Most of the time just before the diagnosis of Celiac disease these people had experienced infections, antibiotic treatment or surgery—all of which are known to change the composition of the bacteria in our guts." -Alessio Fasano

If regard is being given to the role gut bacteria plays in the emergence of Celiac Disease, I think Candidiasis would be included considering it signifies gut bacteria is out of balance (or at least it may have a positive correlation with Celiac Disease).

freedomfromthis Newbie
freedomfromthis
Posted

Does anyone know if there is any research being conducted on the connection between candidiasis and celiac disease?  I was reading about how the proteins in gluten are very similar to the proteins in the cell walls of candida yeast and I was wondering if perhpas the body was being tricked into rejecting gluten because it thought it was yeast overgrowth?  If our bodies were trying to protect us from further overgrowth, they might produce an immune reaction to signal us that something was making the yeast worse.  In the case of food, this signal could be foods that are very similar in structure to yeast.  I have been doing a lot of reading and many of the diseases and disorders associated with Celiac seem to be attributable to yeast ovrgrowth as well.  I've looked for info regarding current research studies that might be looking at this but I can't find any.  Most of the research to date only indicated that having Celiac shows a higher incidence rate of getting yeast overgrowth, but nothing to suggest the opposite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

KF, the attached link may have a little insight for you:  Open Original Shared Link .  Go to page 178, left column, bottom of the page to the paragraph titled "External Triggers".  This continues into page 179.  The article is well written.

 

In this paragraph the term "cross-reactivity" is used, which I understand is a highly debated topic.  Being new to this issue I completely respect that, especially since I'm learning what I might be enduring (don't think it's celiac disease but gluten intolerance).  

 

I have food allergies and have wondered if the porosity in the intestinal wall caused by the gluten reaction allows those allergies to become even more insidious before manifesting symptoms.  Possibly candida may have a similar effect ?

 

Hope this helps in your search.

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