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My son had an EGD and sigmoidoscopy on Monday, upper biopsies negative. Waiting for sigmoid biopsies, but I thought it wasn't usually found that low.

In some strange way I am disappointed because I feel like now I have no answer. He is just really gluten intolerant I guess. I know that gluten free helps, but I feel like when you say your son is gluten intolerant people look at you and say....yeah right.

I am going to get some probiotics and switch him off of dairy again to see if we can really heal his gut. Poor boy, I can tell what he had for dinner just looking at his diaper, it all comes right back out. He can't be getting that much in terms of nutrition.


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I can't even tell you how sorry I am to hear this.  Seriously, I had two kids scoped last week and they both came back negative.  I cried!  I wanted there to be clear damage so I *knew* I was making the right decision.

 

The oldest kid is still going with celiac - even after a negative biopsy.  The GI DX her before the scope and said that it's not uncommon for kids to clearly have celiac and not have a positive biopsy.  She said it's like having a water mark on the middle of your large dining room table.  You can take a lot of pictures and never see the water mark.  Biopsies are like that - they simply can't see the entire thing.  This kid has every other sign of celiac, though (1st degree relative, stomach pains, no growth in over a year).

 

Middle kid was sort of iffy before the scope.  So he came back negative and we're not going with celiac.  He's going to be nearly 100% gluten-free until he hits the birthday party circuit and then he can have the gluten-y treats there.

 

You know, you can call your son whatever you want to the vast majority of people.  Who cares what they think - if gluten doesn't work for your kid then that's all that matters.

Mylesmommy Rookie

This sounds odd, but it's so nice to hear someone say they almost cried when the biopsy didn't show anything! I feel the same way. I just wanted a concrete answer! Sick, I know. I really wouldn't wish celiac on anyone! I just want to have a straightforward answer. Now I just feel like I put my kid through a procedure for nothing.

I know gluten is not good for him though. I gave him a big bowl of goldfish before he went to bed as a last goodbye before his procedure...he was up four times that night. He still wakes up at night, but when he is off gluten...sleeps like a dream.

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