Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Tell Me About Kidney Stones


Pegleg84

Recommended Posts

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Hi guys!

 

It's been a while, mostly because I've been doing very good in the gluten department. Aside from catching more than a couple cold bugs this year, I've been a-o-kay in the food department.

 

Or at least (possibly) up until this Thursday. I ate some oatmeal for breakfast, and we had an extra long meeting at work and I was getting really hungry (weak and nauseous) by the end of it, so I wolfed down a Macro bar when I got to my office. I was feeling some discomfort before that, but the nausea didn't stop, and I got this HORRIBLE pain in my side. right down in the left side above my hip, too far over to be in my stomach. It was not the usual pain I get from indigestion or anything like that. This was different. I toughed it out for a while, decided to try to eat my lunch (thinking I might still be hungry) and ooooh man, it just kept getting worse. It hurt when I pressed on my side, and I could hardly see straight. Something told me very strongly that this was not normal. So I abandoned my half eaten lunch, told my boss what was going on, and was off to the clinic. It didn't get any worse but not much better while I wated. Doctor thinks its either a stomach bug or food poisoning (unlikely, no fever or vomiting), kidney stones (most likely), or an ovarian cyst.

So, we're treating it like a kindney stone at this point. I did a urine test, have an ultrasound scheduled for Monday, and she gave me a prescription for pain killers. Drinking lots of water. Eating mostly soup.

 

The pain was bad but not horrible the rest of Thursday, was ok Friday morning but came back in the afternoon (right after lunch, oddly enough), so I went home and doped myself up (percocet works! but man does it make you loopy). Today is so far so good. I'm still hoping it's nothing, or just my stomach being a pain and doing weird things, cause if it is a stone it's not going to be fun getting rid of it. There's still a mild ache in my side, a bit tender.

 

Anyway, since this is my first experience with these (possible) suckers, anyone want to share their experiences? Or posit alternatire possibilities? I know the pain is intermittent, but can you tell if the thing has passed or not (ie: is the pain actually gone, or will it be back with a vengence?).

I know this might not be directly related to Celiac, but I have read (very old) threads about stones being common in Celiac sufferers.

 

Anything you can offer would be great!

 

Cheers

Peg

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



MycasMommy Enthusiast

I just had this happen for the first and hopefully last time ..last thanksgiving.  It was horrible pain! I hear you!  I went to the E/R, the nurse had mepee in a cup...  it was a cup of blood basically.  They quickly dosed me up with some morphine (which makes me insanely itchy but better than hurting like that) and gave me some filter things to lay over the toilet to pee through so I would know when the stone(s) had passed.  It took 3 days. Thank you vicodin.  I have a really low pain tolerance for some things, and a very high one for others.  Very strange.  But THAT? That hurt.  Before my friend drove me to the E/R I was on all fours on the ground, trying to breath like a woman in labour... twisting myself around and almost upside down to relieve some of the pain. haha It is kind of funny now.  If I ever get those feelings again, you can bet I will be ina race back to the E/R of doctors office (if open) to get pre drugged GAHHH    Happy times...happy times.....

 

 

ETA:  The summer before that happened, I also had to have my gall bladder out. that ended up a 7 day stay in the hospital because it was so bad they had to open me wide. There were stones wedged way down into the bile ducts of my liver?  I think that was what they explained.. it took me mroe than 3 months to recover and then BAM kidney stones...

etbtbfs Rookie

I got stones in 2013. At that point my lifelong celiac symptoms were significantly receding, having been gluten free since 2003. A urologist broke up the stones that would not pass, with a laser device inserted thru the urethra. My biochemistry is much more stable now and I feel quite well; I'm not expecting a reoccurrence of stones. My regular doc has since done imaging; no new stones have appeared at this point.

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Had my ultrasound today. Won't get results for at least a week, but from the horrid pain I had on my left side during the scan, I'll be surprised if something's not up with my kidney.

Did anyone else have really bad tenderness in your side/back when dealing with stones, even when it's not super painful? The pain has been coming and going, but is still in the same spot. No sign of anything "passing" or moving.

MycasMommy Enthusiast

Had my ultrasound today. Won't get results for at least a week, but from the horrid pain I had on my left side during the scan, I'll be surprised if something's not up with my kidney.

Did anyone else have really bad tenderness in your side/back when dealing with stones, even when it's not super painful? The pain has been coming and going, but is still in the same spot. No sign of anything "passing" or moving.

 

Hmm mine was super painful the whole time but I am going to guess that it was because I had to very large ones. They did a CT right there in the E/R because of the amount of blood in my urine. But the area of the pain.. It hurt up and down my back and side like a dull but persistent pain the few days leading up to this fiasco.  It was explained to me as thus:  The stones are actually a crystalline structure whose sharp edges cut the tube leading from your kidney to your bladder. The larger they are the slower and more painful they can be as they are cutting you more. That is why you may get some blood in your urine. Multiple small ones can hurt but you will not necessarily bleed from them.  The only way (as far as I know) that you will know if they have passed or not (besides pain relief) is that little filter tray you lay on the toilet to filter as you pee. (Or another ultrasound or CT I guess too).  I have also heard but have not checked it out, that ultra sound can help to break them up.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Wheatwacked replied to GlutenFreeChef's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      12

      Blood Test for Celiac wheat type matters?

    2. - trents replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    3. - JudyLou posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    4. - marzian commented on Scott Adams's article in Diagnosis, Testing & Treatment
      5

      A Future Beyond the Gluten-Free Diet? Scientists Test a New Cell Therapy for Celiac Disease (+Video)

    5. - Jmartes71 posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      0

      Medications

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,142
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Mark Conway
    Newest Member
    Mark Conway
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      no argument. Never take the pills sold for Nuclear events, except in a nuclear event when instructed to by authorities.  Some of these go up to 130 milligrams per pill. 5000 times the strength of the dietary supplement.  130 times the safe upper limit.  130 mg = 130,000 mcg. Dietary supplements like Lugol's Solution and Liquid Iodine are 50 micrograms per drop.  It takes 20 drops to reach the safe upper limit. In the US the Safe upper limit is 1100 mcg.  In Europe 600 mcg and in Japan 3000 mcg ( 3 mg).
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @JudyLou! There are a couple of things you might consider to help you in your decision that would not require you to do a gluten challenge. The first, that is if you have not had this test run already, is to request a "total IGA" test to be run. One of the reasons that celiac blood antibody tests can be negative, apart from not having celiac disease, that is, is because of IGA deficiency. If a person is IGA deficient, they will not respond accurately to the celiac disease blood antibody tests (such as the commonly run TTG-IGA). The total IGA test is designed to check for IGA deficiency. The total IGA test is not a celiac antibody test so I wouldn't think that a gluten challenge is necessary. The second is to have genetic testing done to determine if you have the genetic potential to develop celiac disease. About 30-40% of  the general population have the genetic potential but only about 1% actually develop celiac disease. So, genetic testing cannot be used to diagnose celiac disease but it can be used to rule it out. Those who don't have the genetic potential but still have reaction to gluten would not be diagnosed with celiac disease but with NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).  Another possibility is that you do have celiac disease but are in remission. We do see this but often it doesn't last.
    • JudyLou
      Hi there, I’m debating whether to consider a gluten challenge and I’m hoping someone here can help with that decision (so far, none of the doctors have been helpful). I have a history of breaking out in a horrible, burning/itchy somewhat blistering rash about every 8 years. This started when I was in my early 30’s and at that point it started at the ankles and went about to my knees. Every time I had the rash it would cover more of my body, so my arms and part of my torso were impacted as well, and it was always symmetrical. First I was told it was an allergic reaction to a bug bite. Next I was told it was eczema (after a biopsy of the lesion - not the skin near the lesion) and given a steroid injection (didn’t help). I took myself off of gluten about 3 weeks before seeing an allergist, just to see if it would help (it didn’t in that time period). He thought the rash looked like dermatitis herpetiformis and told me to eat some bread the night before my blood tests, which I did, and the tests came back negative. I’ve since learned from this forum that I needed to be eating gluten daily for at least a month in order to get an accurate test result. I’m grateful to the allergist as he found that 5 mg of doxepin daily will eliminate the rash within about 10 days (previously it lasted for months whether I was eating gluten or not). I have been gluten free for about 25 years as a precaution and recommendation from my doctor, and the pattern of breaking out every 8 years or so remains the same except once I broke out after just one year (was not glutened as far as I know), and now it’s been over 9 years. What’s confusing to me, is that there have been 3 times in the past 2 years when I’ve accidentally eaten gluten, and I haven’t had any reaction at all. Once someone made pancakes (they said they were gluten-free, they were not) and I ate several. I need to decide whether to do a gluten challenge and get another blood test. If I do, are these tests really accurate? I’m also concerned that I could damage my gut in that process if I do have celiac disease. My brother and cousin both had lymphoma so that’s a concern regarding a challenge as well, though there is a lot of cancer in various forms in my family so there may be no gluten connection there. Sorry for the ramble, I’m just doubting the need to remain gluten free if I don’t have any reaction to eating it and haven’t had a positive test (other than testing positive for one of the genes, though it sounds like that’s pretty common). I’d appreciate any thoughts or advice! 
    • Jmartes71
      Hello, just popped in my head to ask this question about medications and celiac? I have always had refurse reaction to meds since I can remember  of what little meds my body is able to tolerate. I was taking gabapentin 300mg for a week,  in past I believe 150? Any ways it amps me up not able to sleep, though very tired.However I did notice it helped with my bloating sibo belly.I hate that my body is that sensitive and medical doesn't seem to take seriously. Im STILL healing with my skin, eye, and now ms or meningioma ( will know in April  which)and dealing with this limbo nightmare. I did write my name, address ect on the reclamation but im not tech savvy and not sure if went through properly. I called my city representative in Stanislaus County and asked if theres a physical paper i can sign for proclamation for celiac and she had no clue about what I was saying, so I just said I'll go back on website. 
    • Scott Adams
      I'm not saying that some celiacs won't need it, but it should be done under a doctor's supervision because it can cause lots of problems in some people.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.