Is there a test or something to tell me if its just a gluten intolerance?

[Elleslats]

The symptoms are really bad once I have gluten. Before I got tested, I ate a whole lot of foods that had gluten because I thought it would be the last time. I suffered a whole lot after that. I got my test the same day and it came back negative. Is there a test or something to tell me if its just an intolerance? I'm always cold even though I eat a sufficient amount of food. I thought its related to Celiac cause I'm not getting in my nutrients. What steps do I take now?

[Scott Adams]

There are tests in development that show promise, but none yet available...for example:

 I believe that many who have high levels of gluten antibodies, but don't cross the specific threshold to call it celiac disease, or those who have negative blood tests but mild villi blunting and the doctors tell them they are negative for CD, may be in the gluten sensitive category. Many in these categories won't find relief from their symptoms until they go gluten-free, and we see this over and over on this forum.

[Scott Adams]

PS - Welcome to the forum!

This article we just published today is also very relevant to your question:

 

[Elleslats]

33 minutes ago, Scott Adams said:

PS - Welcome to the forum!

This article we just published today is also very relevant to your question:

 

Thank You!

Do you know if it can cause one to be really cold and have chest pains as well?

[trents]

Good article Scott. This stood out to me: 

"The results for Group 2 showed that, for the 1,423 patients who received diagnostic endoscopy for possible celiac disease, only 40% of clinicians met guidelines to take four biopsies. 

Following biopsy guidelines increased celiac diagnosis by nearly 5%, from 4.6% to 10.1%. Meanwhile, more than one out of eight newly diagnosed celiac disease patients had at least one non-diagnostic gastroscopy in the 5 years prior to diagnosis."

[Scott Adams]

Agreed @trents! What I think this really means is that many are slipping through the cracks, and told they can continue eating gluten, when in fact they have celiac disease. I personally think the entire diagnostic criteria need to be revamped and standardized to make blood tests be the first and most important part of a diagnosis with minimal use of biopsy, and far better training and education needs to be given regarding not going gluten-free before testing. How many times on this forum do we see people getting tests after they start a gluten-free diet, and their doctor never tells them otherwise?

[Scott Adams]

26 minutes ago, Elleslats said:

Thank You!

Do you know if it can cause one to be really cold and have chest pains as well?

Certain chest pains, and even heart issues, have been connected to untreated celiac disease, but it is always a good idea to discuss these symptoms with your doctor, as they of course could also be something more serious. 

Being really cold could be a side effect of the many nutrient deficiencies caused by celiac disease, but also worth mentioning to your doctor.

[NeverLikedRollercoasters]

1 hour ago, Elleslats said:

I got my test the same day and it came back negative.

Just want to jump in and make sure your test was proper. You need to be eating gluten for at least 6-8 weeks prior to the blood test and 2 weeks for endoscopy biopsies. From your post it sort of sounds like you ate gluten for 1 day and took the test in the same day which would not be proper at all.

[Elleslats]

1 hour ago, Scott Adams said:

Agreed @trents! What I think this really means is that many are slipping through the cracks, and told they can continue eating gluten, when in fact they have celiac disease. I personally think the entire diagnostic criteria need to be revamped and standardized to make blood tests be the first and most important part of a diagnosis with minimal use of biopsy, and far better training and education needs to be given regarding not going gluten-free before testing. How many times on this forum do we see people getting tests after they start a gluten-free diet, and their doctor never tells them otherwise?

very true. before i got tested, my doctor had not told me i needed to eat gluten. i did research and found out that i had to be on a gluten challenge.

[Wheatwacked]

On 2/11/2021 at 2:50 PM, Elleslats said:

cause one to be really cold

I've been cold intolerant all my life. Until recently it was not unusual for me to turn the heat on at 78 degrees or take a hot shower to warm up my core.  For the past year I've been making sure to get 5 grams of potassium daily along with 100% each day of the other vitamins and minerals. The net result is that my tolerance to cold has improved and my blood pressure has improved. Unfortunately, regardless if you are gluten sensitive or celiac, the treatment is the same.

[knitty kitty]

Wheatwacked, 

Thought you might be interested in these articles....

 

"Thiamine Deficiency Causes Intracellular Potassium Wasting"

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-causes-intracellular-potassium-wasting/

 

And...

 

"Thiamine deficiency-induced disruptions in the diurnal rhythm and regulation of body temperature in the rat"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9804367/

 

 

 

[Wheatwacked]

On 2/13/2021 at 11:02 PM, knitty kitty said:

"Thiamine Deficiency Causes Intracellular Potassium Wasting"

Thiamine is definitely one of the vitamins that needs to be targeted by anyone recovering from Celiac Disease. Once that has been addressed there is still the fact that most of the world population is significantly deficient in potassium intake, and there is no safe supplement, high BP and other health issues are on the rise as a result.

"For the participants of NIPPON DATA80 the mean dietary potassium intake for men and women was 3042.4 (SD 792.3) mg/day and 2768.5 (SD 736.2) mg/day, respectively. " Dietary Intake of Potassium and Associated Dietary Factors among Representative Samples of Japanese General Population: NIPPON DATA 80/90 (nih.gov)

While I respect the research in Japan on Thiamine absorption, I wonder how much potassium deficiency itself affected their conclusions.

" the FDA has ruled that some oral drug products that contain potassium chloride and provide more than 99 mg potassium are not safe because they have been associated with small-bowel lesions [21]. Second, the FDA requires some potassium salts containing more than 99 mg potassium per tablet to be labeled with a warning about the reports of small-bowel lesions [22,23]."

"The DV for potassium on the new Nutrition Facts and Supplement Facts labels and used for the values in Table 2 is 4,700 mg for adults and children age 4 years and older [18]...  According to data from the 2013–2014 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), the average daily potassium intake from foods is 2,423 mg for males aged 2–19, and 1,888 mg for females aged 2–19 [28]. In adults aged 20 and over, the average daily potassium intake from foods is 3,016 mg for men and 2,320 mg for women." Potassium - Health Professional Fact Sheet (nih.gov)

After a year of eating 5000 mg potassium a day my average BP at age 70 with no BP meds is 126/70 and improving. A year ago it was it was 147/84.

[Posterboy]

6 hours ago, Wheatwacked said:

After a year of eating 5000 mg potassium a day my average BP at age 70 with no BP meds is 126/70 and improving. A year ago it was it was 147/84.

Wheatwacked,

I know from another conversation from a blog post that (if my memory serves me right....without going back and looking it up)......that you also begin taking Magnesium at around) that time.

Your Magnesium is now preventing Potassium wasting at the cellular level.

This is true for Thiamine as well.

See this research that explains the connections between Thiamine, Magnesium and Potassium wasting...

Entitled "The relationship between disorders of K+ (Potassium) and Mg+ (Magnesium) homeostasis"

 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3317639/#:~:text=Potassium%20and%20magnesium%20balance%20are%20frequently%20altered%20by,balance%2C%20particularly%20magnesium%20depletion%2C%20produce%20secondary%20potassium%20depletion.

quoting the full abstract

Abstract

"Potassium and magnesium balance are frequently altered by common pathological conditions. Isolated disturbances of potassium balance do not produce secondary abnormalities in magnesium homeostasis. In contrast, primary disturbances in magnesium balance, particularly magnesium depletion, produce secondary potassium depletion. This appears to result from an inability of the cell to maintain the normally high intracellular concentration of potassium, perhaps as a result of an increase in membrane permeability to potassium and/or inhibition of Na+-K-ATPase. As a result, the cells lose potassium, which is excreted in the urine. Repletion of cell potassium requires correction of the magnesium deficit. Are such magnesium dependent alterations in potassium balance of any clinical significance? Within the context of electrolyte disturbances, magnesium replacement is often necessary before hypokalemia and potassium depletion can be satisfactorily corrected with potassium supplements. The hyponatremia often seen with chronic diuretic usage may also be related to depleted intracellular potassium stores. In a small group of patients with chronic congestive heart failure, magnesium replacement alone was sufficient to correct this hyponatremia. Finally, magnesium and potassium depletion may play an important role in the development of cardiac arrhythmias in certain select groups of patients, such as those with overt ischemic heart disease. The frequency of magnesium depletion in some clinical disease states warrants renewed interest in the relationship between magnesium and potassium homeostasis."

Because Magnesium is a Co-factor for Thiamine as well.....you will also get low in Thiamine when you get low in Magnesium....

The term is Refractory or Secondary.....the Primary deficiency is Magnesium (FIRST) the Secondarily deficiency (condition) you get is Potassium wasting....

See this same relationship to a Thiamine deficiency that repaired itself after Magnesium Supplementation...

Note for others.....Magnesium Glycinate (anytime) or Magnesium Citrate (with meals) are the best forms of Magnesium to take with high bio-avaliability

Entitled "Aggravation of thiamine deficiency by magnesium depletion. A case report"

Again quoting the full abstract because it is short....

Abstract

"A patient with Crohn's disease and long-standing diarrhea resulting in a combined thiamine and magnesium deficiency is presented. Despite massive doses of thiamine i.v., the symptoms of thiamine deficiency could not be suppressed until the magnesium deficiency was corrected as well. This case report emphasizes the dependence of thiamine on magnesium for an adequate function in the body."

When you have developed a Potassium deficiency you have developed "Refeeding Syndrome" and the doctor's have not made the connection....

Here is an article on it.....

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322120#what-are-the-causes-of-refeeding-syndrome

I wrote a Posterboy blog post about Refeeding Syndrome in Celiac disease maybe it will help you....

https://www.celiac.com/blogs/entry/2722-is-refeeding-syndrome-being-misdiagnosed-as-a-celiac-crisis-today-latest-research-indicates-a-celiac-crisis-could-be-refeeding-syndrome-being-misdiagnosed-instead/

Someone (A Celiac) who has developed Refeeding Syndrome is said to be in "Celiac Crisis" but because the doctor's don't study nutrition.....they typically only recognizing these connections in Alcholic's...

But electrolyte abnormalities and low Albumin levels (Protein Energy Malnutrition) are typical symptom's of Refeeding Syndrome....

I had BOTH and the doctor's had NO Clue!

They are good people....they just can't see it if you are not in a third world country or you in the ER already with a Whisky bottle in your hand.....

But in truth intense vomiting or prolonged Diarrhea can bring it (Refeeding Syndrome) on in as little as 5 days time...(especially if you are doing both at the same time)....and why Diarrhea is said to be a killer....

Quoting again from the the Refeeding Syndrome article....

"It can take as few as 5 successive days of malnourishment for a person to be at risk of refeeding syndrome"

It is rarely diagnosed as Gasrointestional  Beri Beri when this happens.....

Here is a patient in Hawaii that took a 12 day stay in the hospital (think ER again) before the doctor's got it right......which naturally is a "Rare Presentation of Thiamine Deficiency as Gastrointestinal Syndrome" in their words.......but really it is on RARELY diagnosed/understood complication of being low in Thiamine.....because they don't know about the connections...haven't studied nutrition enough to understand the often lethal connections....when it is caught early enough....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4175961/

Once they were treated with Thiamine they were able to go home....

IN FACT Vomiting is a survival technique by the body so we don't run of Thiamine....

See this great research that explains why this is so....

Entitled "Thiamine deficiency induces anorexia by inhibiting hypothalamic AMPK"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24607345/

And why Alcoholic's will often (typically) vomit after consuming large amounts of Alcohol....

Because they are trying to preserve enough Thiamine in their body to keep from over dosing on Alcohol....

Sorry I went a little long there....but I had a lot to explain....and a short time (space to do it in)

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

[stirling strauss]

On 2/12/2021 at 5:38 AM, Scott Adams said:

PS - Welcome to the forum!

This article we just published today is also very relevant to your question:

 

Isn't there a simple test via blood or stool for Zonulin??

 

[Wheatwacked]

Posterboy. Even with sufficient ingestion of thiamine and magnesium and half a dozen more, and a gluten-free diet I was stuck at a plateau. Not getting sicker, but not getting healthier. That left potassium as the only mineral that I could not supplement to guaranty 100% RDA. It is also the mineral that our bodies require the largest quantity.  Using label information and other data I discovered that I, like most of the world, was only getting half of the recommended minimum, not to mention that the minimum had recently been increased. I needed a way to quantitatively track my potassium. Supplementation was not an option.  I already knew I was getting enough of the the rest through supplementation or consumption, so I created a spreadsheet that allowed me to track it and as a bonus track the other nutrients in the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 28 (Slightly revised). Iodine is conspicuously missing. One thing I found exciting was that, usually, my ratio of magnesium to potassium tracked very closely at 1 to 10. If I got 4700mg potassium I almost always got 470mg magnesium. But that meant that if I only got 200mg mag, and supplemented another 500, my magnesium was sufficient at 700mg, but I was left with only 2700mg of potassium. Enough to mask refeeding syndrome, but not to rebuild my cells and I suspect at cost to the potassium content of my skeleton(osteoporosis connection), especially the hips and ribs which have the largest percent of potassium in the skeleton, I also found my Potassium to Sodium ratio increased some days as much as 4:1 and higher. (the goal of the DASH diet and probably why my BP improved).  

Obviously not medical advice, just nutrition discovery.

 

 

[Posterboy]

1 hour ago, Wheatwacked said:

Posterboy. Even with sufficient ingestion of thiamine and magnesium and half a dozen more, and a gluten-free diet I was stuck at a plateau. Not getting sicker, but not getting healthier. That left potassium as the only mineral that I could not supplement to guaranty 100% RDA. It is also the mineral that our bodies require the largest quantity.  Using label information and other data I discovered that I, like most of the world, was only getting half of the recommended minimum, not to mention that the minimum had recently been increased. I needed a way to quantitatively track my potassium. Supplementation was not an option.  I already knew I was getting enough of the the rest through supplementation or consumption, so I created a spreadsheet that allowed me to track it and as a bonus track the other nutrients in the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 28 (Slightly revised). Iodine is conspicuously missing. One thing I found exciting was that, usually, my ratio of magnesium to potassium tracked very closely at 1 to 10. If I got 4700mg potassium I almost always got 470mg magnesium. But that meant that if I only got 200mg mag, and supplemented another 500, my magnesium was sufficient at 700mg, but I was left with only 2700mg of potassium. Enough to mask refeeding syndrome, but not to rebuild my cells and I suspect at cost to the potassium content of my skeleton(osteoporosis connection), especially the hips and ribs which have the largest percent of potassium in the skeleton, I also found my Potassium to Sodium ratio increased some days as much as 4:1 and higher. (the goal of the DASH diet and probably why my BP improved).  

Obviously not medical advice, just nutrition discovery.

 

 

Wheatwacked,

I wish had the skill to track my intake as good as you.

I had a friend who had a Potassium deficiency like yourself and taking Magnesium helped his Potassium deficiency.

I will try Potassium again.....because it has been associated with Type 2 diabetes....

https://www.diabeticsweekly.com/connection-potassium-diabetes/

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/potassium_levels_possible_key_to_racial_disparity_in_type_2_diabetes

Thanks for your great insight on Potassium.....

The biggest issues with Magnesium and Thiamine is finding highly absorbing forms...

Benfotiamine is easily found in the diabetic section of most health food stores...

There is a winter storm going on right now.....so I won't head out right now to get some Potassium but I will soon!

You probably know this....Orange Juice  (OJ) is great source of Potassium.

Since I can't drink that....maybe It is time for me to get some Tomato juice and start drinking that again....

I used to crave the stuff.....it is time I listened to my body again!

Posterboy,

[Posterboy]

Wheatwacked,

If you continue to have High Blood Pressure issues consider taking some Riboflavin aka Vitamin B2.

I used to take three BPM's and cut it down to one maintenance medicine after taking Riboflavin.

Here is the research on it entitled "Riboflavin intake and 5-year blood pressure change in Chinese adults: interaction with hypertensive medication"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24791577/

Also read this Jeffery Dach MD article on Riboflavin...

https://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/11/riboflavin-hypertension-mthfr/

Oddly enough or not so oddly if you believe that Vitamins/Minerals keep us healthy....like your low Potassium levels or Possibly your low Magnesium and Potassium levels etc...

Riboflavin worked better than hypertension medicine's for High Blood Pressure.

In the beginning my doctor thought it odd too....I chose supplements (Vitamins)  over medicine but when he saw the results I was having he got on  board!

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

[Wheatwacked]

2 hours ago, Posterboy said:

when he saw the results I was having he got on  board!

Glad you have a doctor open to alternatives. If you want to send a day's food log I can send you the results. Or if you want I can send you the spreadsheet. I created it in Open Office but should work in any spreadsheet program. All my B's are good by supplement or diet including B5 essential to the Krebbs Cycle. My serum levels are all normal except lipids (familial hyperlipidemia according to my new doctor) and prediabetic (which I take as evidence of sufficient thiamin). My A1C and glucose recently went down into the high normal range. 

If you tolerate milk, a 12oz (360g)glass is 530mg potassium, 36mg magnesium, 423mg calcium, 18mcg folate, 583iu vit A. Most of the volume is water so it also helps with hydration. That's 5 times the amount you can get OTC as a potassium supplement. 100% Pasture fed, no grains tastes like the milk I grew up on. My brother pointed that out to me. Organic milk only requires 120 days pasture and the supplement they feed the cows to increase output raises the LDL. Pasture fed has higher HDL.  Notice the potassium per calorie on Iceberg lettuce and tomatoes. And they say Iceberg lettuce is empty of nutrition.

If you are serious about supplementing, try Cream of Tarter (Potassium Bitartrate, a result of winemaking) is 1500mg potassium/tablespoon in a glass of water and is considered a safe food additive by the FDA (unlike KCl),but I eventually found it easier to drink a few glasses of milk. A cup of coffee with milk is about 100mg. I drink around 5 a day.

mg K/cal    mg K/gram        Food
             
1        7        Almonds
3        5        Avocado
4        4        Banana
13        3        BASIL,FRESH
3        5        Beans (equal amounts dry chick, pinto, and small red, soaked and boiled.)

1        3        Beef, Ground Chuck 80/20
8        2        CABBAGE,RED,RAW
1        6        Durhams Deluxe Mix Nuts
10        1        LETTUCE, Iceberg
2        1        Milk, Organic Valley Grassmilk
4        2        Milk, Borden Skim
1        4        Oatmeal, Quaker gluten-free Instant
3        2        Orange, navel
15        6        Parsley,fresh
9        3        Scallion, top and bulb
9        2        Tomatoes(no salt Tuttorosso peeled plum)
2        2        TURKEY,LT MEAT,Raw
2        8        Flax seed
1        3        M&M'S PEANUT CHOC CANDIES
1        1        Sour Cream, Daisy
2        9        Flax seed Meal, Bob's Red Mill Premium
1        2        Ice Cream, Breyers Vanilla Chocolate
3        3        Catsup
1        1        Eggs, Fresh
2        6        Whey, Six Star Plus
0        0        Broth, Progresso unsalted chicken
4        4        Olives, Flora Sicilian Pitted
5        2        STRAWBERRIES,RAW
1        5        Greenfield gluten-free uncured bacon
 

[knitty kitty]

Oh, Wheatwacked, 

I disagree that you're getting enough thiamine.  Prediabetes is a symptom of thiamine deficiency.  

This article discusses a study done comparing differences in lipid profiles and blood parameters between type 1 and type 2 diabetics and nondiabetic controls.  High dose Thiamine is shown to have a beneficial effect for reversing the problems.

"Thiamine Level in Type I and Type II Diabetes Mellitus Patients: A Comparative Study Focusing on Hematological and Biochemical Evaluations"

https://www.cureus.com/articles/31208-thiamine-level-in-type-i-and-type-ii-diabetes-mellitus-patients-a-comparative-study-focusing-on-hematological-and-biochemical-evaluations

And...

"Diabetes and Thiamine: A Novel Treatment Opportunity"

http://www.hormonesmatter.com/diabetes-thiamine-treatment-opportunity/

I'm Type Two Diabetic, but I was able to get off all medications by correcting my thiamine deficiency with high dose Thiamine and benfotiamine.  Thiamine is water soluble and there's no toxicity limit.  The body can't store Thiamine for many days, and requires more thiamine when under stress or illness.  I was taking a multivitamin, a B Complex vitamin, and was skeptical, but I started high dose Thiamine and the improvement has been dramatic.  Thiamine transporters turn off when there's a deficiency, so to turn them back on requires high doses of thiamine in order to allow thiamine into the cells without the transporters.  

Thiamine also plays an important part in the Krebs Cycle, along with niacin and magnesium.  

There are enzymes that break down thiamine (called thiaminase) in coffee, making thiamine unusable in the body.  You might want to reconsider the five cups of coffee a day..... There's thiaminase in black tea, as well, so I have to take my thiamine supplements when I haven't had tea.  

Hope this helps.

 

[Scott Adams]

19 hours ago, stirling strauss said:

Isn't there a simple test via blood or stool for Zonulin??

 

Welcome to the forum. I'm not aware of a Zonulin test, but am aware of at least one company targeting a drug that regulates Zonulin levels that may one day help treat celiac disease.

[Scott Adams]

I just want to point out that doctors don't recommend taking potassium supplements unless they are prescribed by a doctor:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/should-i-take-a-potassium-supplement 

[trents]

I agree, Scott. Too much potassium can do harm to the body.

[Wheatwacked]

The FDA has a 100mg restriction on potassium supplements because of evidence that it causes intestinal lesions and the law does not allow them to outright ban supplements. 100mg of the RDI of 4700mg is negligible and your money is better spent on food that has potassium. A 28g serving of potato chips (one ounce) has 350 mg potassium. At 160 calories/ serving that is more than 2mg K/calorie. To get the RDI you need an average of 2.4 gm K/ calorie. And the potassium to sodium ratio is 2:1, ie. Heart Healthy. The fat issue was retracted by the government. The Irish did well on a diet largely supported by potatoes until the blight caused famine. Personally I suspect the Fear of Potato Chips was a machination of Big Wheat marketing.

I am only suggesting, as stated by the FDA and the WHO that potassium deficiency is a worldwide issue. "WHO recommends an increase in potassium intake from food to reduce blood pressure and risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke and coronary heart disease" Actually the WHO only suggests 3510 mg per day, 1.8 mg K/ cal, so potato chips actually exceed their recommendation for potassium and the K:Na ratio.😄

12 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

Prediabetes is a symptom of thiamine deficiency.  

According to my current lab tests, I am reversing my family trend towards type 2 diabetes but will keep this in mind. Any suggestions for familial hyperlipidemia? I am sorry to have run this so off-topic.

[Wheatwacked]

5 minutes ago, trents said:

Too much potassium can do harm to the body.

The issue here is that doctors like to prescribe blood pressure meds that are potassium conserving which overrides the body's normal control.

[Posterboy]

1 hour ago, Wheatwacked said:

According to my current lab tests, I am reversing my family trend towards type 2 diabetes but will keep this in mind. Any suggestions for familial hyperlipidemia? I am sorry to have run this so off-topic.

Wheatwacked,

Taking Benfotiamine (the fat soluble B1) can help your Cholesterol.

I was you 10+ years ago.  Vitamin K can also help.

I had your "Familial" IE Genetically high Cholesterol.....and all the doctor's had for me where Statins.....

So I searched/researched until I understood what was going on metabolically in my body....

NOW my cholesterol is normal and has been for years now....

Granted, it took a few  years of studying to figure it out.....that is why I share my "Life Lesson's" on what supplement helped me.

Here is the research on it.

Entitled "Metabolic Benefits of Six-month Thiamine Supplementation in Patients With and Without Diabetes Mellitus Type 2"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3921172/

quoting from the research....

"In all groups, there was a significant decrease (p = 0.001), as well in total cholesterol after three months (p = 0.03) as well as in HDL cholesterol after six months of thiamine supplementation (p = 0.009). Significant improvements were also observed in the mean serum levels of creatinine as thiamine and its derivatives in both serum and urinary levels across follow-up visits"

I took it to help the creatinine in my kidneys....but it also helped my "Genetically high" Cholesterol.

Here is the research on Vitamin K.

https://www.secondopinionnewsletter.com/Health-Alert-Archive/View-Archive/13813/Effects-of-Vitamin-K2-on-Cholesterol-Levels-and-Plaque-Formation-.htm

Taking Poly Chromium will help your Prediabetes.

I dropped my A1C a whole 2 points in only 2 months after taking some Chromium Poly.

Not Picolinate it can hurt your kidneys....but the Chromium Poly form!

It (Picolinate) is popular because it has a patient on it....not because it is good for you (necessarily)

It (Chromium) works because it works as a catalyst for your Insulin increasing it's effectiveness by a factor of 100x (typically)...

And why Type 2 diabetes is a disease of poor nutrition!

I went from diabetes with complications (creatinine in my kidneys) to a well controlled diabetic with normal Cholesterol levels after taking Chromium, Vitamin K and Benfotiamine.

I have kept my diabetes under control for over 10+  years now......without any of the complications that is expected of someone who has had it this long....

Dr's only think in terms of Medicine....not nutrition....

That is what Nutritionist are for instead.....

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

2 Timothy 2:7  As always, “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included.

Posterboy by the Grace of God,