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mrna vaccines reduce bifidobacteria in gut


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Megawisdumb Apprentice

Locally, since Covid it seems to me a larger portion of the population has celiac.   Getting a loaf of Schar bread at Publix is like winning the lotto.   Yesterday, I read the article below and it seemed to connect the dots.  Prior to my two shots, I had zero gut issues and got along great with beer and pop-tarts.  Maybe coincidence, maybe not but it might have been the trigger for me in my late 50's.  Might try to load up on bifidobacteria for a few months and see if I can restore my gut bio to see what happens down the road.   I can dream. 

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Best to link to the actual study, which isn't about the vaccine, but is about SARS-CoV-2 PCR-positive patients...a big difference. It's important to get information about vaccines from a good source, and not a bad one. This study does not show that the vaccine causes this, but may happen in those with covid-19, and the more severe the case of covid-19, the lower the levels of Bifidobacterium.

https://bmjopengastro.bmj.com/content/9/1/e000871 

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Results Compared with controls (n=20), severely symptomatic SARS-CoV-2-infected patients (n=28) had significantly less bacterial diversity (Shannon Index, p=0.0499; Simpson Index, p=0.0581), and positive patients overall had lower relative abundances of Bifidobacterium (p<0.0001), Faecalibacterium (p=0.0077) and Roseburium (p=0.0327), while having increased Bacteroides (p=0.0075). Interestingly, there was an inverse association between disease severity and abundance of the same bacteria.

Conclusion We hypothesise that low bacterial diversity and depletion of Bifidobacterium genera either before or after infection led to reduced proimmune function, thereby allowing SARS-CoV-2 infection to become symptomatic. This particular dysbiosis pattern may be a susceptibility marker for symptomatic severity from SARS-CoV-2 infection and may be amenable to preinfection, intrainfection or postinfection intervention.

 

Megawisdumb Apprentice

Thank you for the clarity.  Vaccine and virus both man-made imo.  If the virus lowered the bacteria level instead of the vaccine it would still account for a bump.  I’ve attempted to see if ICD10 celiac or DH jumped post outbreak but have not seen any high level metrics.

Scott Adams Grand Master

The vaccine is definitely man made, but the source of the virus is being debated by scientists. Regardless of the source, the science is clear that those who are vaccinated have less serious disease, and less risk of death from it, and if they have less serious disease it means they are less likely to suffer from the lower the levels of Bifidobacterium in the gut which can cause many other negative health issues.

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